Second round of GTG (Updated)
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This past weekend I had the opportunity to attend a coin show for the first time in at least 4 years. I forgot how much I enjoyed interacting with fellow collectors and seeing so many beautiful coins in one day. I ended up spending most of my time talking to a world coin dealer who was super knowledgeable and had some very impressive pieces. I was able to add a few decent examples to my William III halfpenny collection (numbers 7, 8, & 17 on the list below). Of course, with every coin show, you are bound to encounter those select dealers who completely lack social skills. Overall, I walked away very happy with a few new additions and a contact source for nicer world coins.

Anyways, the main point of this post was to make a second attempt at a guess the grade post (GTG). I really enjoyed the comments and guesses from my last GTG and I figured it could be fun to do so again. I just mailed out the box with 18 coins on the invoice this morning. The package should be there by Friday! As always, I fully understand that it can be nearly impossible to accurately grade from a picture and this thread is solely for fun. The pictures are of differing quality/background because I did not have time to re-image the coins with very poor pictures before I submitted them. Feel free to pass any judgment you see fit no feelings will be hurt on my part. Please post the number and corresponding guess below. I look forward to seeing what you all think!

1. 1797 Great Britain Penny 

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2. 1806 Great Britain Penny

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3. 1791 Sierra Leone Penny 

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4. 1799 Great Britain Halfpenny

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5. 1793 Bermuda Penny

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6. 1788 Great Britain Pattern Penny 

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7. 1695 England Halfpenny 

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8. 1696 England Halfpenny

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9. 1697 England Halfpenny Peck-650 Variety 

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10. 1811 Bank of England 18 Pence 

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11. 1829 (ND) Jamaica Penny

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12. 1717 England Halfpenny 

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13. 1692 Ireland Halfpenny

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14. 1694 Ireland Halfpenny 

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15. 1736 England Farthing 

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16. 1682 Ireland Halfpenny 

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17. 1699 England Halfpenny

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18. 1604 Ireland 6 Pence

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Here goes nothing:

1. AU58

2.MS66

3. MS63

4. AU58

5. VF

6. F

7. F DETAILS

8. VF DETAILS

9. VF

10. MS63

11. VF

12, AU53

13. G

14. VG DETAILS

15. F

16.VF

17. F DETAILS

18. F DETAILS

 

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What Bob said.......:wink:

Seriously though.....Those are some great looking coins. You did a nice job with your photos too !

 

Fun stuff !

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23 hours ago, Just Bob said:

Here goes nothing:

1. AU58

2.MS66

3. MS63

4. AU58

5. VF

6. F

7. F DETAILS

8. VF DETAILS

9. VF

10. MS63

11. VF

12, AU53

13. G

14. VG DETAILS

15. F

16.VF

17. F DETAILS

18. F DETAILS

 

Thank you for participating! We are pretty close on a few. Some you graded more leniently and others more conservatively than I do, but overall we are not too far apart! I will post my guesstimates closer to the time they are finalized (the shipment has not even made it to Sarasota yet). Maybe we can get a few more people to tag along between then and now.

15 hours ago, thebeav said:

What Bob said.......:wink:

Seriously though.....Those are some great looking coins. You did a nice job with your photos too !

 

Fun stuff !

I am glad you enjoyed the thread. Thank you for the compliments! 

9 hours ago, Mk123 said:

Not gonna try guessing but gonna follow and see what your results are!! 

No harm in that, the more the merrier! 

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The submission status has been marked as “scheduled for grading”. Seems like they moved through the first stage pretty quickly. 

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Here is a picture of my most recent purchase. I have done my best to obscure the certification number to avoid the obvious, but please take a shot at guessing the grade! 

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coinsandmedals, can't wait to see what the grades come back as, seems like yours will be graded fairly soon! As for the newp, its beautiful!

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On 3/12/2019 at 4:49 AM, Mk123 said:

coinsandmedals, can't wait to see what the grades come back as, seems like yours will be graded fairly soon! As for the newp, its beautiful!

Thank Mk123! I was/am really excited to have in the collection. 

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The results are in (kind of)! Two of my coins were flagged as NCS candidates and I believe that may have made the process a little wonky. As of current, my status is marked as “Quality/quality control” but has a shipped date of 4/26/19. I had to run a certification verification for each coin to check the grades.  Overall I am pretty happy but I feel as though my William III halfpennies were battered pretty bad. Here are the grades the coins received.

Number

Coin description

My guess

NGC grade

1

1797 Great Britain Penny

AU-58

AU-58

2

1806 Great Britain Penny

MS-63*

MS-63

3

1791 Sierra Leone Penny

MS-61

Altered surfaces

4

1799 Great Britain ½ Penny

MS-63

MS-64+

5

1793 Bermuda Penny

XF-45

NCS

6

1788 Great Britain Pattern ½ Penny

PF-25

PF-35

7

1695 England ½ Penny

VF-25

VF-details Env Damage

8

1696 England ½ Penny

VF-25

VF-25

9

1697 England ½ Penny

VF-30

VF-details Env Damage

10

1811 Bank of England 1S 6P

MS-63

MS-64

11

1829 Jamaica token

VF-35

XF-details Rim Damage

12

1717 England ½ Penny

AU-58

MS-61

13

1692 Ireland ½ Penny unbarred As

F-15

VG-10

14

1694 Ireland ½ Penny

VF-details

VF-details Env Damage

15

1736 England ¼ penny

AU-53

AU-55

16

1682 Ireland ½ Penny

VF-30

VF-35

17

1699 England ½ Penny

F-details

F-details Env Damage

18

1604-7 Ireland 6P

VF-details

VF-details Damage

 

1.       This coin has a very pronounced die crack on the reverse which I think is pretty cool. I had expected this come back as AU-58 because of a very light rub. Overall I am happy with this one.

2.       This coin has some killer color to it and I had originally thought it might warrant the start designation. I feel as though the grade is fair but I would have loved the star. Overall I am happy with this one.

3.       The obverse of this coin had a mark I was a little on edge about and the color did look odd, but I convinced myself that it was okay before I sent it in. I should have listened to my gut instinct on this one. I still like the coin though.

4.       I am super happy with the grade on this one. This is the first coin I submitted that came back with a “+” designation.

5.       This coin is currently with NCS. Fingers crossed on this one. I will update the thread when I figure out the end result.

6.       I am very happy with this grade as well. The coin has more detail than my pictures would suggest.

7.       I did not catch any environmental damage on this coin. I am somewhat upset by the designation but I will look at it closely when it gets back.

8.       This coin came back exactly as expected and I am pretty happy with it.

9.       I did not catch any environmental damage on this coin either. I am somewhat upset by the designation but I will look at it closely when it gets back as well.

10.   I am very happy with the grade for this one. The obverse has a nice blue tone but the reverse is nearly white. I am glad to have this coin in my collection.

11.   The rim damage is noticeable and I had really hoped that would detract from the grade but I had the expectation that it probably would. I remained hopeful but at least the coin was in XF and not VF like I had thought it would be.

12.   Wow, this one caught me off guard! I suppose what I thought was light rub may have just been strike weakness. This coin made up for the other 3 that I am not so happy about.

13.   I had over graded this one by a few points. This is the unbarred As variety is fairly scarce and it is a nice chocolate brown example. I also believe it may be the only example graded by either NGC or PCGS. Overall I am happy with this one.

14.   I really enjoy the look of this coin even though it has environmental damage. I submitted it because I wanted it in a slab. I figured it had been through enough in its roughly 325 years.

15.   This one came back a notch higher than I expected. I am pretty happy with this one.

16.   This one also came back a notch higher than I expected. This coin has a nice overall color and I am very pleased to have another graded example in my collection.

17.   As expected, this one came back in a details holder. I figured it would cost no more than the grading fee to have it graded and would allow me to take full advantage of the shipping charge.

18.   I really like the look of this coin and I justified the grading fee with the same logic as number 17. I am happy to have this coin safely resting in a slab.

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On 5/10/2019 at 6:12 AM, Mk123 said:

not bad at all, you did great! Keep it up!

Thanks, MK123! 

UPDATE: The 1793 Bermuda Penny (line item 5) just came back from NCS and NGC with a grade of XF details "Environmental Damage". I suppose once they removed whatever was on the surface it revealed some underlying environmental damage. This is not the result I wanted, but I will check it out when I have it in hand and use it as a learning experience. I do have notes that the fields were discolored so I can not say I am completely surprised. 

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