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guess the grade on this 1896 Morgan

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Here's a new pickup, an 1896 Morgan. What grade do you think it received AND do you think it's * star-worthy* ?

As always, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts :)

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ms65+, i do like the toning on the reverse and IMO it should be a star. however, generally ngc will not star coins if the toning approaches a black color or contains some black color, so no i do not think it will star

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

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I would call it MS65, and lovely at that. The toning pattern is very interesting. It should command a premium. With this said, it is darker around the edges, so I'm not sure if NGC would award the star. Notwithstanding this consideration, I personally consider it worthy of a star designation.

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I love the reverse tone . The coin is MS 66 maybe 66 +.

I think it has a chance at a star.

 

I agree love the coin Don. (thumbs u

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Typical end roll bulls eye toning

Light strike on the obverse

Spot on the reverse under wing

 

MS64

I dont think I have seen a * on a dark toning coin I may be wrong

If so 64*

 

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Absolutely fantastic 65* - although I wouldn't be surprised by a 66. The coin looks like a technical 65 that probably received an eye appeal bump - even though that is supposed to be the purpose of the star.

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

 

I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT.

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

 

I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT.

 

Why did/do you think the toning looks artificial? I see nothing wrong with it at all, and to me, there is nothing even remotely suspicious. The colors and color progression are right.

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

 

I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT.

 

Why did/do you think the toning looks artificial? I see nothing wrong with it at all, and to me, there is nothing even remotely suspicious. The colors and color progression are right.

 

Ditto on all counts.

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

 

I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT.

 

You said it looks AT which is basically the same as saying you think it is AT which in turn is similar to saying it is AT . :/

I would purchase that coin in a heartbeat based solely on the reverse tone.

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

 

I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT.

 

You said it looks AT which is basically the same as saying you think it is AT which in turn is similar to saying it is AT . :/

I would purchase that coin in a heartbeat based solely on the reverse tone.

 

I think you need comprehension work.

 

I said it looks, not is.

 

Big difference.

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

 

I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT.

 

You said it looks AT which is basically the same as saying you think it is AT which in turn is similar to saying it is AT . :/

I would purchase that coin in a heartbeat based solely on the reverse tone.

 

I think you need comprehension work.

 

I said it looks, not is.

 

Big difference.

 

Did you see the smiley face at the end of my comment – that meant I was somewhat kidding with you. You obviously are the one in need of comprehension work. By saying it looked AT meant you thought it was AT. When the smart people here all disagreed with you then you back tracked with your comment “I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT”

I am not going to turn this into a flame thread so there is no need for further comments on your part as to my lack of comprehension.

 

 

 

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Looks AT to me.

 

Like someone placed a round disc on the reverse, and did a heat or chemical treatment to get the circular toning pattern on it.

 

 

This coin is not AT . Looks like the reverse was at the end of a Roll.

Did they put dollars in rolls or just bags ?? :grin:

 

I said it looks like AT, not that it was AT.

 

You said it looks AT which is basically the same as saying you think it is AT which in turn is similar to saying it is AT . :/

I would purchase that coin in a heartbeat based solely on the reverse tone.

 

I think you need comprehension work.

 

I said it looks, not is.

 

Big difference.

 

When we give opinions (whether based on images or in-hand inspection), all we really can/should say is that a coin "looks" such and such. Or we "think" it is such and such. In most cases, to state that a coin "Is" such and such is foolish, since we don't know.

 

When you say a coin "looks AT", in the absence of additional commentary, the logical implication is that you think it is AT.

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You get a nickel from me for that grade !! :grin:

 

Deal!!

I'll take the 3-legged buffalo kind ;)

 

I have a 1915 – S Buffalo with an Acid date – will that suffice ? :cry:

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You get a nickel from me for that grade !! :grin:

 

Deal!!

I'll take the 3-legged buffalo kind ;)

 

I have a 1915 – S Buffalo with an Acid date – will that suffice ? :cry:

 

pretty much the same thing right??? :grin:

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Not really into the * / + thing but

Is NGC * the same as a PCGS + ???:)

 

I know probably been asked a hundred times

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I would purchase that coin in a heartbeat based solely on the reverse tone.

 

I agree. I would purchase the coin in a New York minute. ;)

 

Is that a New York minute calculated by a cab driver?

 

Chris

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