1798 Large cents

[dooly]

Hi all . finally got my lot of 1798 large cents from eBay and i was just wondering if anyone Fancy's a go at the grades since i have scanned the coins now .. also do you think they would grade on my free submissions

 

Coin 1:

Good reverse die crack

 

Coin 2:

 

Cheers all .

[BillJones]

I think that they should get a grade, but you will only get an AG-03 on the first and a FR-02 on the second. If the grading is loser, you can add one point to each piece.

 

[RI AL]

I agree with Bill Jones on both grades.

 

I remember identifying the variety of the first one, but the second one I just couldn't see enough of. Maybe now with the better shots, I could give it another try. No promises though, there are a bunch of 1798's with type 1 hair. In my very humble opinion, I think the first one would grade. The second one, with the numerous scratches in the bow area, the green spot and the chink at 1:00 obverse, (not to mention the wear) I think I would save that submission for another coin.

 

Going to my Sheldon book now to see if anything jumps out at me for your second coin's variety. If I get lucky, I'll report back.

 

RI AL

 

 

 

 

[dooly]

Cheers lads great information as usual .. it would be nice to have one graded for my type set .. also have you seen the different sizes to the Number 8 .. ? is that normal with this date ?

[RI AL]

HI, Dooly.

 

Didn't have much to work on on the second coin but I THINK I may have it identified as to variety. This is based on placement of the berries, how long the stems of the berries are (if any), the C in CENT touching the leaves to the left and the partially covered base of the T in CENT. Now the issues with the C and T in Cent are fairly common, but add in the berries and what I THINK is the fairly short fraction bar, and I came up with S-187. I Struggled with 186 and 181 as possibilities but from what I can see, it's an S-187. As always, if anyone out there can help to correct me, I would be most grateful because I really don't like to give out bad information!! Anyway, it is a Rarity-1 or common, actually, the most common 1798 cent according to Sheldon.

 

Now, here's the problem. The obverse of the 1798 has a very fine die crack through TY in LIBERTY extending downward toward the drapery. I don't see that on your coin but it might be just too worn. Your coin has a little blob at the rim directly in front of the nose and the photo in Sheldon shows a "blob" too...though somewhat bigger. There are other diagnostic features on the obverse that are not visible on your coin but again, wear may be a factor.

 

Well, that's the best I can do. Hope someone will jump in and correct me if I'm off.

 

RI AL....hope I'm right on this one...it was a challenge...but I'm not feeling 100% comfortable.

[Rex Merdinus-migration]

I'm by no means an expert, but I'm pretty sure it's not am S-186...All the 186's I've seen have a prominent die crack on the right side of the reverse--almost a mirror image, in fact of the crack on the reverse of the first coin above.

[L1ncolnF4n]

FR-02 and PR-01...with a bit more flatten but visable detail the 2nd would go FR-02, and on a good day you might luck out with a AG-03 on the first

[michael]

coin number one is a no brainer even with my eyes closed i can see it is the sheldon -166 took me all of 2 seconds to figure out

 

the whisker variety see under the neck and also the die break you outlined

 

also.......................

 

oh i just saw this thread never saw it when it was on the first page SUPER COOL THREAD BY THE WAY (thumbs u

 

okie also..... the s-166 is the most common of all the 1798 large cents but it is a really cool variety and i think it once was? a red book variety but it is not currently

 

and of course type 2 hair 1798 veriety

 

what is really interesting about the 1798 s-166 is that mosyt all of the coins no matter waht they grade come usually come below average to scudsy

 

i do not know why but for me a nice circulated 1798 s-166 type 2 hair draped busat large cent is not only way cool but really SCARCE with average surfaces let alone avg+ surfaces!! vg and above

 

nice pick up there if i do say so myself

 

(thumbs u

 

i think every large cent collector needs the whisker 1798s-166 large cent

 

really sexy

[michael]

(thumbs u

[dean1345]

Here is a 1798 S-166 with more details.