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  1. I recently purchased this ancient prutah of Pontius Pilate. While it may appear to be an encrusted normal issue, it’s anything but. It’s a rare “barbaric” issue, with only one other known and this being the finest. I know there is s lot of detail being covered by encrustation. When it comes to ancient coins I’m not a fan of cleaning them, preferring “as found” typically. But with this being an important coin, I’ve had many recommended I get it cleaned, along with many offers to do so. The thing that matters to me the most is keeping as much as the original patina as possible. In no way, shape or form do I want it mint state, and no fillers. I’d just like more detail and the original patina to remain. It is made out of bronze. Is this something NCS could help me out with? Do you have before and after images I could see of other ancients you have removed encrustations from? Thank you.
  2. I see it all the time. Nice coin. It’s not unusual for NGC not to issue a grade. They are great about posting if it’s a special coin or from a specific hoard. Most serious Ancient collectors don’t follow the poor - ms65 system and will not slab their coins. There are certainly exceptions. I have a friend who recently spent $30,000 on a coin. The most knowledgeable collector I know and he bought it from a WELL established German auction house. He had the greatest eye. Sent it to Sears and he said No Worries! Authentic! He still had a bad feeling and sent it to done legally recognized world deceive agency. They tested it, and sure enough it was a reptooduction. This WELL known and respected auction house refused refund a refund. He now had an lawyer who handles International stuff. I think even the great NGC would have missed this one. Don’t mess with this dude!
  3. Where do I begin. I have a lot of unique Crusader States coins that Alex Malloy owned in his collection.
  4. That’s cool. I went through a Byzantine phase. Based on you description I’d guess $20-$30. But if it has a nice patina and decent detail, maybe more. If it’s been cleaned removing the patina most collectors would pass on it.
  5. Oh yea, I've seen many Arabic/Islamic coins and I'd guess that its a token. I could very well be wrong though.
  6. I have some friends who can tell you exactly what it is. I'll try to get to it within a few days. I have A LOT on my plate right now. Neat coin.
  7. That coin, including the patina, does not look right.
  8. Aren't they, in a way, saying the grade on the slab is wrong?
  9. Another one I can't tell has been cleaned, but I'd guess the reverse gives it away? I can see no evidence of cleaning on the obverse. CLeaned Morgan Dollar
  10. Here is an example. What gives it away. Some are obvious, but I run across a lot that I can't see the reason. Cleaned NGC Morgan
  11. I'm only been looking at CC Morgans as of late, and, no high end ones, so that is likely why I haven't seen any.
  12. Thanks for the responses. I haven't seen any NGC coins yet with a CAC sticker. Do they just do PCGS?
  13. I don't know, just seems a way to try and jack up a coins value over its grade.