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Just Bob

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  1. I am normally not a fan of collecting labels instead of coins, but, in this case, I really like the idea. This isn't one of those sets that can be assembled in a short time if you have plenty of money. This one looks to be a real challenge. It may, in fact be impossible, as some of these coins/slabs may not even exist. Congrats on having such a great idea, and good luck with your hunt.

  2. On 12/4/2022 at 9:44 AM, J Brown Collection said:

    Its NGC's way of taking your money but not doing the work they are paid to do, if they are going to do this and send it back in a flip then they should refund a portion or all of the grading fee.  On the bright side you paid $30 for a cool little piece of paper that says NGC, your coin info and "Altered Surface".  With so many details descriptions out there, why not put that on it?   I will not certify coins with NGC after they gave +20% of my submissions this label.

    If 20% of your coins came back with "altered surfaces" or some other "details" grade, it sounds as though you need to do a lot more studying and examining  coins before you send in any more - regardless of where you send them. Sorry to be so blunt and harsh, but it appears the problem is not with NGC, but with your experience and expertise. Being able to determine if a coin has been cleaned or otherwise messed with normally takes lots of practice and requires viewing many coins in hand. I realize this is not what you want to hear, and I certainly will understand if you get mad at me and refuse to heed my advice, but I do believe what I wrote is true.

  3. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this was done. I thought I had it all figured out last night, but then I realized It could not have happened the way I thought. 

    I think I have finally figured out one way it could have happened:

    Assuming the reverse (Britannia) die was the lower (anvil?) die, and using your estimates of the degree of rotation, it appears that it (the reverse die) rotated clockwise 18 degrees (viewed from the top), and the coin rotated counterclockwise 3 degrees. That would give the second strike the 21 degree counterclockwise rotation of the reverse, and 3 degree clockwise rotation of the obverse. This assumes that the obverse die did not rotate.