Hi my fellow collectors . A while ago I won an auction of a token I thought I would never own. It's called Franklin's Press. The press is in the Smithsonian Institute.. When he was eighteen years old he went to Great Britain in search of work. Well he found it printing. Now there is discrepancy about this token. It's in the Red Book book and"The Provincial Tokens -Coinage of The 18th Century. By R Dalton and D.S.Hamer" those are the D& H number you see on every token but this one doesn't have it. It was made in Middlesex England and is on page 130. It should say 307a.
Now this token made it to the Americas. That's why it's in the Red Book. As post colonial America. Not only that is called unique. Why well because they had some.with edge writing and some without.. However no matter what grade the price on both is the same. The one I will be putting up is an A/U 58. Now you would think there would be alot more in a better grade. Only sixty one in a higher grade. So if I'm right and my research says I am that's were this token was made but you will not see it with the proper label. Now it was a while ago so I don't remember how much I paid at the auction. I have seen them for a couple of hundred or a couple of thousand. Either way just to see one it's one of those I have to win this. I knew about it and even to this day I do not understand the label in the slab I have have a book that pre-dates the red book by a couple hundred years. If they use the book or Adkins they will see it's not an American token. I have been down this road before I will go down this road agan.
I don't know what book they got there information from but I intend to find out and see if we can settle this like colectors. The reason it's not up now is because it gives three discriptions. Therefore with the conflicting evidence I promise I will have it posted. Face it this token is being held onto by sentimental collectors who own it. I would love to see the other labels. So there you have it. I wish I could post it but NGC is working on that. Thanks for the quick read but a very important one. Every coin and token come from a certain country. Let's get this tokens home right. I have an update I checked the N G C verification code. There are only 61 higher than this grade. The label reads as follows 1794 Plain Edge Token A/U 58. Nothing to do on were it was made. If I didn't know better they used the Red Book. Only. If they check my book and others it would say Franklin Press Middlesex Great Britain D&H 307a. That's the proper label. Not something that tells.absolutely nothing. That's just not right Mike.
Well I have an update in was able for you you to see it but not change where it was made. I did get Middlesex in with the D&H number 307a. So at least you know we're it was made. It never circulated in the U.S. And according to NGC verification app there are only 61 in a higher grade. So I have work a head. Thanks for your patience at least it's up. Mike
Hi this is an update. I just put up another token. For two reasons one it's beautiful. Two it was graded by P.C.G.S now over at the ANA I have stated not send your tokens there. This is a perfect example. At NGC they start the edge writing on the label. If you don't have a book before you send it write it down. At PCGS they don't even mention if there is edge writing. Edge writing tells you were to redeem it. It can also determine rarity. It's very important so please if you collect Conders send them to N.G.C. You deserve the best. Mike
Update.I received my corrections back. That is one. They did not correct the Franklin Press. This mistake was made by the first person to grade one and has continued to this day. It is not a colonial. A post or pre colonial it's ENGLISH!! I have sent NGC all the proof they need to correct an historical mistake of great proportions. Franklin moved to England at 18. He went in search of printing materials. He got a job and the owner a Mr. Watts saw a chance to make money on his name. So it's believed he had he tokens made. I have them the reference book which has all the information. We're it was made. The important D&H number the year. They made two one with edge writing one without. It should read G. Britain Middlesex D&H 307b Franklin Press.AU/ 58. The label the have had nothing just Franklin Press.why someone didn't do there homework beyond me. It's Franklin it has to be made here. Q. David Bowers said it it never circulated here. But it's in the red book . Another mistake it doesn't belong there it's a world token. Not from America. History has to be right. Nothing about this is right. It's sad.. Give the token it's respect. A name of were it was made a number you can refrance. I was supposed to get a call back. Didn't happen. I know why. They now know the truth and do not know what to do. I do correct them and contact every owner and correct history. Take it out of the Red Book. It was not a circulating token those that made it here were collected. So NGC what else do you need. I will gladly supply it. But you have a chance to correct a great injustice. As we say here just do it. You have the proof. I even wanted to send a email of the page and book. Please contact me. Before you do check the red book page 137 and 138 it also states it's a Conder token. It has Bowers comment it did not circulate in the U.S. It tells you were it was made.in ENGLAND IN 1794. Why else do you need. That's the deluxe red book I buy it because it has more information.. Then after you check both books call me please. That's all I ask. Mike.
Just want to let Every one that I am giving up. This was never personal just simple bussiness. I contacted Mr Q. David Bowers and told him to drop it. Friendship is not worth the change of a labe. Just two people trying to fix something that was broken. I asked a friend if he went to a show and there was a conder salesman there to ask for the the Franklin Press the salesman said.307a from Middlesex. He said the Franklin press. I was happy. It's over as far as I'm concerned. Everyone made good points. I even made a suggestion that would generate more funds for NGC. We know no one trust anyone for grading them. So I said to get the collectors in put the info on the label like you do now do not grade it put genuine. Charge 15.00 for slabing the token since there by passing the grade it can clear up the wait time and get thousands to use there service who never would before. Strictly for protection. I hope they use it I think it would work. Take care everyone Mike.