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United States Mint Product Survey For Silver Medals
This week, the U.S. Mint sent me an email asking if I would complete an online survey about their "exciting" new silver medals planned for 2025. As an avid collector of the Mint's silver medals, such as the armed forces and Presidential silver medals, I decided to complete the survey. Unfortunately, these new proposed products turned out to be silver medals depicting current pop singers and DC Comics superheroes...
When the survey specifically asked why I wouldn't be buying the proposed 2025 "Selena" medal, I explained:
Quote"Issuing medals of pop singers and comic book characters cheapens the U.S. Mint's integrity and brings it down to the level of private mass-marketed bullion manufacturers. I believe a vast majority of U.S. Mint collectors will vehemently avoid such trend-targeted junk. Does the U.S. Mint also plan to hire hip social-media influencers to promote this garbage? I will stop collecting U.S. Mint products if it proceeds with such plans. There are so many legitimate historic and patriotic subjects that can be used for U.S. coins and medals."
Sorry if any of you are Selena fans.
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And then there were three.
Well, somewhat to my surprise, PA JK has come out hard and has finished his set, as of just this last Thursday 4/25:
So there's now 3 100% complete Zimbabwe type sets, heading into the release of the new 2024 ZiG coins and PA JK has taken away some of my Top Pop labels.
Having gotten an MS69 on the 10 cent bond coin and several very nice grades - including an MS grade $25 that has escaped me so far, I think PA JK is a much bigger threat for overtaking my set than I'd thought Xanno's was. I guess we'll see how bad PA JK wants it.
I'm more than a little surprised. I guess I'm not the only one this crazy after all.
I have at least 2 "friends."
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Mysterious KM# PN 10 for sale on Ebay
I've noticed that a mysterious and supposedly modern Burmese-Myanmar coin is now for sale on Ebay for $9,850, or best offer. The photos are the first good look of this coin I have ever seen. I have done a bit of research into it in the last several days and now have more questions than answers, and I was hoping that someone at NGC or in the community would have some insights. Here are some photos. One question I have is the date: how was BE 2602 converted to Christian Era 1942? If BE refers to either Burmese Era or Buddhist Era, 2602 does not come close to 1942. Furthermore, Numismaster dates KM's PN 10, 11, 12 as 1949. So is 1942 a typo? Another question concerns the denomination of four annas. If these aluminum pieces were minted in 1942 or 1949, when either the Anglo-Indian monetary system or Burma's post-independence adaption of it (from 1948 to 1952) still were in force, then I can understand it. But per U Than Htun's work, Auspicious Symbols and Ancient Coins of Myanmar, which features a color photo of one, it is alleged to be a relatively modern Burmese governmental issue, which for some reason was not fully pursued. If that is the case, the denomination of annas would not have been used, given that from the Burmese perspective it would be a throw back to the hated colonial period. So I'm thinking this could be a private fantasy piece and not a government issue. Anyone have some thoughts? Thanks.
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An Important Pedigree for Brazilian Coins (cont.)
Five additional RLM pedigreed coins that I purchased after the original Heritage RLM auctions are shown in the pictures above. The data for these coins are shown below, including the dates when I purchased the coins as well as the change in the price that I paid for the coin compared to what the coin sold for in the original RLM auction. Other interesting information is also included.
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Brazil, 1832-R 6400 Reis, gold, NGC 55, NGC census (33 total, 8 in, 24 better)
- I purchased it in January 2018 for 14% less than the original price.
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Brazil, 1847-R 10,000 Reis, gold, NGC 53, NGC census (10 total, 1 in, 5 better)
- I purchased it in January 2018 for 37% less than the original price.
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Brazil, 1790-B 6400 Reis, Plain Headdress, gold, NGC 55, NGC census (3 total, 3 in, 0 better)
- I purchased it in August 2021 for 55% less than the original price.
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Brazil, 1729-B 1600 Reis, gold, NGC 12, First Variety Arms, NGC census (2 total, 1 in, 1 better)
- I purchased it in August 2022 for 74% less than the original price.
- This RLM coin is now in a NGC holder with a Petropolis Collection pedigree
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Brazil, 1731-B 800 Reis, gold, NGC Clipped, the only other coin in NGC census is a MS 62
- I purchased it in August 2021 for 52% less than the original price.
- This RLM coin is now in a NGC holder with a Petropolis Collection pedigree
Here are my observations about the three Heritage RLM auctions and the subsequent sales of the RLM pedigree coins.
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My observations are based on the 11 RLM coins I purchased following the completion of the three Heritage RLM auctions.
- There was a total of 474 items sold in these three RLM Heritage coin auctions.
- The 11 RLM coins correspond to a 2.3% sampling, which is low.
- I focused on buying rare coins, so my observations may not hold for the more common coins that were sold in the RLM auctions.
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There were many very rare coins in the RLM collection.
- It looks like many of these coins may have been cracked out and resubmitted to NGC.
- These resubmitted coins probably no longer have the RLM pedigree on the slab.
- The NGC census is probably inflated for these rare coins because of these resubmissions.
- If many RLM coins have been cracked out, then I probably have other RLM coins in my collection and don’t even know it.
- Many of the really rare Brazilian coins have problems and reside in “details” holders.
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It seems like the realized prices for the rare Brazilian coins in the three RLM auctions were pretty high and the prices have been falling since that time.
- Considering that I had just recently started collecting Brazilian coins and the only Brazilian coin that I had was purchased four months before the first RLM auction, I didn’t have a very good understanding about the Brazilian coin market at the time of the RLM auctions.
- The eleventh RLM coin that I own, which I didn’t have the space to show, was a Brazil 1733-M 800 Reis gold coin that I purchased in June 2016 for a 20% discount from the original purchase price.
- The only RLM coin that I purchased for a premium (25%) was purchased from a coin dealer shortly after the last RLM coin auction.
- The other ten RLM coins were purchased at discounted prices from future Heritage auctions.
- The discounts that I received on my RLM coins tended to increase (i.e., coin prices have fallen) as the amount of time increased from the time when they were originally sold in one of the three RLM auctions.
- It looks like the three Heritage RLM auctions may have marked a temporary peak in the Brazilian rare coin market.
- I’m not sure how strong the Brazilian coin market was before these auctions, so it’s possible that these auctions produced prices that were outliers to the upside. If anyone knows about this, I would be curious to know what you think.
- The prices may be falling because additional rare coins have appeared on the market.
- Or prices may be falling because people were overly excited about the original RLM auctions and they just bid too high on the coins.
- There are a number of reasons for the high prices that were realized in the RLM auctions. The most important reason probably is that the RLM collection contained many coins that are very rare and seldom seen, so if you missed the opportunity to get some of these coins then you may have to wait a long time to get another chance to buy them.
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At the time of the RLM auctions I was very frustrated because I didn’t win any RLM coins. However, in hindsight, things worked out very well for me. This experience reminds me of a song by Garth Brooks called “Unanswered Prayers.”
I would love to hear about other people’s experiences with the RLM auctions or prices of Brazilian coins following the three Heritage RLM coin auctions. Also, does anyone think that it’s pretty cool to know that a pedigreed coin was once owned by a great collector?
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Brazil, 1832-R 6400 Reis, gold, NGC 55, NGC census (33 total, 8 in, 24 better)
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Completed Proof set
Well one year in and I have completed the Kennedy Proof set. I am going to start working on MS coins now I hope I have everything set right to be considered for an award. I read November 1st is the deadline.
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The DIY Copy-Stand
Welcome to my first Journal Entry!
I've been wanting to do this for a long time now but didn't know what to put. I know that's what journals are for in the first place is just to write, a way to get stuff off that wet pink ball of noodles in your head.
Maybe I should've been here way earlier? 
Either way, here we are now let's get to the meat and potatoes of why we are here now!
So I may tend to hyper fixate onto new things every now and then. I have always been an artist, as a young kid I was very good at drawing but I'm not sure where that has since gone. But this year I found beautiful photos of coins showcasing their extraordinary characteristics. I'm talking about colors I never knew possible to be on coins! The Blues, The Reds, The Purples, Greens, Yellows, Golds, and everything in-between and above and below! I thought to myself, "WOW! How silly.. There's no way that a coin can actually look like that, that's the saturation turned WAAAY up to get those effects." Well I sure was wrong. I found myself stumbling into a world of coin's I'd never ventured into. I did not know just how amazing some coin's could really tone. Then I went down into a rabbit hole of how to store coins for certain types of toning effects and etc. But I didn't care too much for those over the edge, overly fake looking tones. Nonetheless I wanted to be able to capture images of those types of coins for myself! Now did I have any coins in the first place that were as miraculous some of the pictures I had seen? No.. But! I do search lots of bank rolls, mainly quarters and some Lincoln cents. So I have the ability to run into some pretty coins!
Now this whole wanting to become a coin photographer idea literally just bloomed out of one of my journeys on the internet. It didn't really fall into place until I seen a camera and accessory kit on Wal-Marts website. My budget also tells me this is not possible and just let it become a fantasy. Well who knew my wife's credit could qualify us for Affirm which is a get now pay later financing program that Wal-Mart and tons of other places use! So... I got it.. Wow I'm sorry my whole ADHD way of telling stories is or just thought process is all over the place. Ah! Yes! So we got it! "It" is a Canon EOS Rebel T7 with a whole kit and caboodle. Just tons of stuff this kit came with which was a plus. Now I have only ever taken photos with my cell phone or a normal digital camera, NOTHING like this. So I'm still learning and playing with it I think I've owned it for a little over a month now. It's great I absolutely love it and love learning new things so it's been a great journey. Well now I got the camera, do I have those beautifully toned coins to take these amazing photos of? Negative. Or what about the know how or the setup to even do it? Erm, yeah no we don't.. But there we went back into the interwebs! Also we got some really great info from a user known by the name of Robec, he may be here but I met him on Coin Talk's Chat Boards.
This is where I fell into another problem. The setups that some of these people had to get these amazing over the top photos costed a small fortune! I mean some of these Copy-Stands themselves can run upwards of THOUSANDS of dollars! *There's the main topic of this journal entry!* Then not just the stands but the lights, the editing software, the macro lenses, the objective lenses, the focusing bellows holy cow I was in over my head! BUT! You can get some really great photos using what you got and I tell you what, if there's something I'm really good at its working with what you got you know what I mean guys? *Hehehe* So I just went back to the basics and started with the stand. You need a stand to get your camera held in the right position, held steady, and a number of other factors. So I began brainstorming and came up with what is now my new Copy-Stand. I was going to say it's not the prettiest but honestly I really like the look of it. So its a 3/4", 16"x 12" particle board. A 3/4" Pipe Flange, 12" 3/4" Pipe topped with a End Cap. I then gave it the 'Ole Rattle-Can Special in Flat Black. I looks really great! Now I needed something to hold my camera into place! I found a photography company called, "SmallRig". SmallRig - DIY Camera Rigs, Stabilizers and Other Camera Accessories What I ended up buying is a smart clamp, I also got it off Amazon too. I was really happy when I got it in the mail today and unboxed it to find the quality of the product is outstanding. Its made of sturdy metal, when all setup and the cameras attached and its fitted onto the pipe its snug as a bug. The next thing to work on is getting lights either mounted or just around because I'm sure I'll need to move them around a ton. Here's what it looks like all said and done:
Thanks if you made it this far in reading my all over the place story telling. It's how my brain works. Feel free to show what contraptions you all have created. Any advice given is always great. Until my next Ramble!
Happy Hunting ~ TheColoradoNumismatist
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I fail to see the appeal that this grading system for Morgan and Peace dollars will have.
Wasn't the current Sheldon system good enough?
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just getting started
I like silver coins. Graded or Raw. But mostly graded. I have a few. I most like U.S.A silver $1.00
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Keeping Records Provides Certainty
It has been 10 years since I purchased my first rare coin…
And had I not kept records — mailing invoices, copies of written letters, NGC Submitter Copies — I would have scant recollection of what had transpired.
This brings me back to my first rare coin — a rare gold coin — and I’ve always been bothered by my records not revealing if it really was the first rare gold coin I had ever seen or held.
The mystery involves a tale between two dealers — Austin Rare Coins, Inc. and Thomas M. Pilitowski & Assoc. — and how their different Invoices could reveal — or obscure — the truth, forever.
The two coins involved are an 1881-CC $10 Eagle (Austin) and an 1891-CC $5 Half Eagle (Pilitowski), and both were procured at roughly the same time: June 2013.
I had always been certain that the 1881-CC coin was the first because I talked the dealer into throwing-in a free copy of the 2013 Red Book as part of the deal. But the Invoices left me in doubt ten years later.
Here is what their Invoices reveal:
Dealer Date Ship Date Additional Notes
Austin Rare Coins, Inc. 06/28/13 Not Stated PRE-PAID BY CHECK; CHECK#: 1794
Thomas M. Pilitowski & Assoc. June 21, 2013 July 2, 2013 Due by: PAIDFrom this information it would appear that I ordered the 1891-CC $5 Half Eagle first — a week earlier — but there was the possibility that the 1881-CC $10 Eagle was ordered first, and 06/28/13 was its ship date.
Long ago, I had disposed of my payment records — written checks, credit card receipts — and all I have left are these two Invoices.
Or so I thought…
Although I do not have the cancelled checks anymore, or even my monthly statements, over the years I do retain The Secretary Register(s) for all of my checks. These are not little one-check-per-page checkbook Secretaries, these are 3 checks to a page checkbook Secretaries, the best way to involve yourself with check writing.
Twelve pages deep on one of them, there I found written in dark blue ink, two entries among twenty-eight others:
1794 6/18 ARCI
1796 6/21 Thomas M. Pilitowski & Assoc.I would have written the checks, and mailed them their following mornings on the way to work.
The Austin Rare Coins, Inc. Date is ten days after I wrote the check. The Thomas M. Pilitowski & Assoc. Ship Date is eleven days after I wrote the check.
By keeping my checking book Secretaries throughout the years, I can finally put this mystery to rest: the 1881-CC Eagle was definitely the first rare coin,
… and I still have it today.
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My collection so far.
Today I received my proof type II silver eagle and it is gorgeous, encapsulated in it's OGP with certificate of authenticity, from the West Point mint. I now have proofs from both San Francisco and West Point mints. I am happy with my collection overalll and have just eight more dates/years before my collection is complete in terms of years of issue. After that will come variations thereof, but a lot more slowly! I spent a lot of time and cash to get started but I feel I will have something worth my while and maybe even more much later down the road.
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From Bullets to Coins...An Old Soldier Odyssey
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Every day I wake and realize that I'm still alive...
I cuss...I smile...
I realize health and active lifestyles are wasted on the young, but then I take note that they have no clue what awaits them when they are as old as I am.
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An Improbable Medal Purchase
How did a medal I never knew existed become something I had to have in less than two months? Several improbable events, that’s how.
The improbable events started at the end of November as my wife, and I prepared to go on a cruise. Our 16-day cruise began in Los Angeles and ended almost 4,700 miles away in Miami through the Panama Canal. At the time, I was excited about transiting the Panama Canal. But I was especially thrilled to spend 16 days with my daughter, her husband, and my 17-month-old grandson.
I was all in on the canal when we finally reached Panama City. I gobbled up as much information about the canal as possible. I took dozens of pictures of one of the seven engineering wonders of the world. To this day, I’m soaking up all things Panama Canal. I even have a wallpaper image of the canal on my laptop!
When I got home, the most improbable event of all occurred. A few years ago, I decided to let my membership in the Central States Numismatic Society lapse in favor of PAN. When I went to the post office to pick up the mail, I noticed a large envelope with a return address to CSNS. Inside the envelope was their newly reformatted winter 2023 copy of “The Centinel” and a note asking me to come back. As an aside, I like “The Centinel’s” new format. At any rate, The Centinel had an article entitled “Commemorating the Big Ditch” by Juan L. Riera. The article described the opening of the Panama Canal on August 15, 1914, and the so-called dollar struck to commemorate it.
Do any of you have that “gotta have” coin for your collection on your want list? After reading the article, this so-called dollar (HK-398) immediately went from never heard of to first on my want list of “gotta have” pieces for my collection. I immediately went surfing on the internet to find my new must-have. I finally settled on a nice medal from a dealer I had previously dealt with. Having a medal available in the marketplace for me to purchase is the last improbable event in a long series of incredible events.
Fortunately, this medal was reasonably priced and now stands as the perfect addendum to a most memorable cruise! Add to the fact that this medal (1 of 50,000 serialized medals) was carried aboard the SS Cristobal. The Cristobal was the first ship to transit the Panama Canal on August 3, 1914. At the official opening of the canal on August 15, 1914, this medal was given to 200 dignitaries aboard the SS Ancon. The Ancon is the first official ship to transit the Panama Canal. Though this medal is 1 of 50,000, the dealer who sold me this medal estimates that only a couple hundred examples of it survive today. Perhaps the low survival rate can be attributed to the high international appeal of this medal scattered around the world.
This I do know that my medal graded MS-62 by NGC is among the nicer surviving examples. The design of the Panama Canal completion medal was recommended to the John F. Newman Co. of New York (manufacturer of the Panama Canal Completion medal) by Miss Elizabeth Rodman, cousin of Capt. Hugh Rodman, U.S.N., Supt. of Transportation, Canal Zone. Though the Panama Canal completion medal was copyrighted in 1913, the official issuing date of the medal is recognized as 1914.
This medal measures 38mm in diameter and is struck in bronze. The serial number marked on the reverse is 11138. The obverse of the medal features a woman standing on the prow of a ship transiting the Panama Canal. Her arms are outstretched, holding a ribbon. Under her hands are two globes, the eastern hemisphere on her right and the Western hemisphere on her left. The inscription on the ribbon, translated from Latin, is “Columbia unites the oceans.” The woman has rays of light emanating from her head. There is a banner over her head with the motto boldly proclaiming, “Prosperity to all Nations.” Though I can not find any documentation of the fact, I believe the woman is a personification of Columbia.
The reverse features an inscription under the seal of the Panama Canal Zone. It reads: Commemorating the opening of The Panama Canal to the Commerce of the World Copyrighted and Bearing A Serial number is one of 50000 Carried on the Vessel making the First Passage Through the Panama Canal as Authenticated in Certificate Signed by (signed) Geo. W. Goethals Chief Engineer and Chairman lsthmian Canal Commission.
A significant expansion to the Panama Canal opened on June 26, 2016. This new expansion allows much larger ships like my cruise ship, carrying 5000+ crew and passengers, to transit the canal. I am posting a picture I took of the Agua Clara locks as my ship exited the Panama Canal on the Atlantic side.
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Winter 2023 edition of The Centinel, “Commemorating the Big Ditch” by Juan L. Riera
https://www.so-calleddollars.com/Events/Panama_Canal_Completion.html
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Congrats to the 2022 winners
Congrats for those that were selected in 2022. So many winners in such a large pool of users on NGC, kudos to the judges going through all these individuals. I personally feel honored (and humbled) for being selected for one of my sets out of this pool.
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Wahington Presidential Dollars
I was cleaning out my closet and came across a box from the Mint. It is unopened and postmarked 3/11/2007. 5 rolls of "P" and 5 rolls of "D". Does that date and being unopened add any value if I try to sell the whole box? I paid $359.90, think I can get my money back out of them? Thanks!
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Napoleon is finished - almost!
It has been a while but my graded Napoleon typeset is now complete
Congratulations must go to @Mac5 who reached 100% first.
Next challenge will be a Custom Set and will be one coin per mint, only about a third of the way there so that may take some time as most of my Typeset are from Paris - mintmark A.
A project for the next few generations will be the Sets for Italy, Spain, Westphalia, Holland and all the tokens and medals before even attempting date runs. As we don't have any grand children yet I need to have a word with the kids!
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My collections and what to do next
Im still in the process of creating a id and location inventory list im very organized so this is not too hard i actually enjoy this , anyhow i have decided to bring out all my collection tag each item with a id # and that id is written into my inventory log book then i fill in its details there and a location where i can find it when i need it" its simple and it works not doing it in any certain order right now but im also researching as i record to learn about each piece as much as possible because i love learning its one of life's gifts we have a inquiring mind and mine thrust for knowledge, facts, history, and truth. So when i gave completed this step i might go back and put my coins and money into a abc or by value order but for now this is good enough. So still on step one eval/ record/store/research) but enjoying it! And going great lots more coins to go so till next time peace and love to all and keep it numismatist!!
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Defining what is a POTUS Numismatic Artifact
A single sentence and its explanation are shown in the attached file. Image taken from my 2022 NMS presentation.
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After a bunch of years collecting colonials I decided to liquidate my modest set through one of the upcoming Heritage Showcase auctions. It has been fun to filling in those registry blanks spaces and having rack up several of those NGC awards along the way ... it give one a little feeling of accomplishment. Colonials have been fun to collect with so much history and stories behind each of them .I think NGC did a nice job in establishing their "US Colonial Basic Design Set, 1652-1796" registry as it turned out to be a great vehicle for getting your feet wet in colonials, to track ones progress, and to experience the breath of the history and designs of colonials. I believe these registry really help a collector to create a goal and to help stay focus on their set.
If interested in colonials, this is the link to my listed pieces in the Upcoming Action.
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The wait is over - the grades are posted!
Before sharing the results of my NGC submission, I want to thank those who reached out to me during my hiatus. It meant a lot to me that so many not only noticed that I was absent but took the time to check in on me. As some of you know, our lives were temporarily derailed due to a sudden passing of a beloved family member. From there, life got super busy, and with everything going on, coins were the last thing on my mind. A few big things have happened since my journal entry in December: I finished my Ph.D., accepted a full-time faculty position at an R1 University, we inherited a house allowing us to move closer to family, and my wife landed a new job (with a five-figure pay raise!). Despite all of that, the best news is that our family will grow by one in December!!! Although it is perhaps a bit early, I have already started brainstorming ideas to get the kiddo involved in numismatics down the road. Please let me know if you have any suggestions.
I hope to be more active here now that life is slowly returning to normal. On any note, I have a major NGC submission update to share. The last of the submissions shipped out last week, meaning I finally got to see how they graded. I have already shared a few of these, but to keep things simple, I included them here to compliment the original journal entry (link to original thread).
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1799 Great Britain proof Farthing with shells – Ex. Matthew Boulton
NGC grade: PF-63 BN
“1791” France Jean Jacques Rousseau Medal – Ex. Matthew Boulton
NGC grade: MS-64 BN
1800(11) Westminster Fire Office Medal with shells and wrapper – Ex. James Watt Jr. Collection
NGC grade: MS-66 BN
1805 Ireland proof Penny with shells
NGC grade: PF-64 RB
1793 Board of Agriculture Medal with shells and wrapper – Ex. James Watt Jr. Collection
NGC grade: MS-67 BN
1800 George III Preserved from Assassination Medal with shells
NGC grade: MS-66 BN
1803 Boydell's National Edition of Shakespeare's Works with shells
NGC grade: MS-62
1793 Death of Gustavus III medal with shells
NGC grade: MS-66 BN
1793 Execution of Louis XVI of France – Final farewell medal with shells
NGC grade: MS-66 BN
This submission included several other items, but I either do not have an image of them, or it was just a reholder. Overall, I am pleased with the grades. Most of these are top pops, many three or more grade points higher than their counterparts. The only thing left to do now is patiently wait for USPS to deliver them!
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Best Attended Club Meeting Since COVID
On April 19, 2022, the Madison County Coin Club held its regular monthly meeting in Huntsville, Alabama. The MCCC is a smaller club than I am used to in Pennsylvania. I am used to meetings with 75-100 present at Red Rose of Lancaster, PA. Harrisburg and the Daniel Boone CC of Reading are closer in size to the Madison County Club.
The club returned to live meetings a little under a year ago, but getting back to pre-COVID attendance has been a struggle (or so I am told - I wasn’t there pre-COVID). But tonight was a pleasant surprise. There were over two dozen members in attendance, plus five new guests. Our Treasurer was not able to attend, so taking membership dues was not going to happen.
We are doing well with new members. I need to make a batch of new name badges.
Our program consisted of announcements, show and tell, and a Power Point presentation from one of our youngest YN members on the U.S. Mint’s new issues for 2022.
The renewed strength of attendance will make the return of auctions a possibility.
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Neophyte's - WALL OF SHAME!
I will post the most egregiously horrible sellers. If you make my wall... please re-think your strategy and consider the damage that you are doing to the hobby!
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Phantom Mint Marks. Where are they?
What's interesting is this 1995-D DDO FS-101. Although it is yet to be graded and will be one of the first NGCCOIN will grade out of my collection, I want to explore why a "P" would show up on a "D" die. Is it possible this die was for another coin, I don't know. I'm hoping you'll be able to help me understand why and does it add any value to the penny?
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Maybe I should've been here way earlier? 
Either way, here we are now let's get to the meat and potatoes of why we are here now!
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