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You Won't believe this but it is TRUE! NO place in registry for Wash Dollar!

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hm. Yes. You do seem to be the soul of reasoned discourse with a full 360 degree consideration of all of the issues. wink.gif

 

 

Perhaps you will find this reasoned and thought out.

 

 

The Washington $1 without edge lettering, by contrast, seems to have missed a step in the minting process during which edge lettering is applied to the coins. This happens after the coins are struck, and the set of dies that struck the coin are not relevant to the error that has occurred. Because it is a mistake that relates to that individual coin, and not a characteristic of the dies a group of coins, it is not a variety.

 

Mint errors are, by definition, mistakes that occur during the mechanical minting process that affect a single coin. Some mint errors are more common than others. We all have seen States Quarters errors that are missing a clad layer. One side appears to be copper, and the other has a regular nickel surface. These are relatively common. How many have seen a struck clad layer? A clad layer that has peeled off of a planchet and is then struck is very rare. These layers are paper thin, easily damaged, and detected by Mint quality control measures.

 

 

Using the definitions above:

 

1. The Washington $1 is missing a step that is applied to the coin after the coins have been struck. In the past, the stiking of the coin concluded the minting process. Damage done after the striking of the coin can, and does result in a no grade, counting wheel damage being the first to come to mind.

 

2. The old Mint error definition did not take into account post processing of a coin after the die strike. If you do not turn the coin on its edge, you would have no way of knowing that these coins were missing this post die strike process. The fact that most of the coins have the post processing lettering on the side is similar to the first release Sag dollars that did not receive post diestrike burnishing. All of the examples above describe problems that occur in the planchet and die strike of the coin. The Washington coins in question have no diestrike problems. the planchets are fine, the obverse and reverse are complete and the edge collar retained the coin for a complete mintage of the coin.

 

This error is more like a mint employee in the 1800's forgetting to stamp the date and mintmark into a die and running a few thousand coins with the incomplete die. The lack of this step did not result in any less of a coin being minted, just a fully minted coin without crucial inscriptions placed on the fully minted coin.

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hm. Yes. You do seem to be the soul of reasoned discourse with a full 360 degree consideration of all of the issues.

 

Having your own opionion and being open to debate are not mutually exclusively. The definitions of errors/varieties do not currently take into account the process used to form these new coins. That is really where we are at. Perhaps NGC was too quick to call these errors. In any event, only time will tell. The real question is, will NGC be willing to review their initial decision, and further be willing to change, should it be deemed necessary.

 

Your post really added nothing constructive to the discussion. If you have a valid argument, then explain why his understanding of the current rules is not sufficient.

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