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First thing you have to do is figure out when Joshua (aka "Jesus") was hanging around. The coin illustrated is outside that range, and has no relation to the quotation that was invented 150 years later.

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Hi Bill,

While I am a Roman coin guy, this particular area is far outside of my expertise and my area of interest.  I am the wrong guy for this one for a lot of reasons.  However, if you want to get some ideas of pricing, you can look up the coins you are interested in on VCoins and MA-Shops and see what the prices are there:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/Default.aspx

https://www.ma-shops.com/

That should allow you to build a consensus on price ranges on coins that you are interested in.  

I hope that this is of some help, at least.  It's the best I can do here.  Best of luck!

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 If you like it get it Bill. I would have to say this is the oldest coin in my collection and also the smallest. Not much bigger than a pencil eraser. Is it the real thing? It does not matter it is the story that makes it what it is or is not.  

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On 9/15/2021 at 9:34 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

Thanks JP. I think I’m going to save up and get this one because it is Caesar Tiberius Augustus who was emperor at the time of the crucifiction. That would be cool to have.BDD7AEDC-94B5-4FB6-AB18-6416438F78DE.thumb.png.b36528b288038f2c32f08aa5cc43ce62.png

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Bill.....without commenting on any of the other content of the post, I just wanted to let you know that the coin you have pictured is Augustus, the first Roman Emperor, who reigned from 27 BCE-14 CE  Tiberius came after him and reigned from 14-37 CE.  So, if you're looking for Tiberius, the coin pictured is not him.  Augustus was the actual title of all of the Roman Emperors, actually, and the Empresses were referred to by the title Augusta.  I know, it's confusing, but if you want a Tiberius, I wanted to save you from buying the wrong Emperor.

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On 9/15/2021 at 10:33 PM, Mr.Bill347 said:

Thanks Mohawk as you know, I’m in wayyy over my head on this thing. 🤯

No problem.  I just didn't want you to get the wrong Emperor for your collecting goals.  Tiberius....now I can actually help you with him somewhat.  He was the second Roman Emperor, but there were others that had Tiberius as part of their names later on, so you probably want to search for his coins using the term Tiberius I.  Now, he's going to be a bit pricey for a nice coin because there are many ancient collectors that seek to build "12 Caesars" sets, or coins of the first 12 Roman Emperors, which puts additional demand on Tiberius' coins.  I did a VCoins search for you  I hope that this link works and takes you to the listings for Tiberius:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.aspx?search=true&searchQuery=Tiberius+I&searchQueryExclude=&searchCategory=0&searchCategoryLevel=2&searchCategoryAncient=True&searchCategoryUs=True&searchCategoryWorld=True&searchCategoryMedieval=False&searchBetween=0&searchBetweenAnd=0&searchDate=&searchUseThesaurus=True&searchDisplayCurrency=&searchDisplay=1&searchIdStore=0&searchQueryAnyWords=&searchExactPhrase=&searchTitleAndDescription=True&searchDateType=0&searchMaxRecords=100&SearchOnSale=False&Unassigned=False

And remember the dates of his reign 14 to 37.....that should definitely help avoid later Byzantine Emperors with Tiberius in their names.  I think the link will work and you can see what's available for Tiberius.  And VCoins sellers are reputable....many of my Faustinas have come from them.  I should also mention that anything silver from Tiberius is going to be pricey because it's scarce.  You can thank Nero for that because he was the first Emperor to debase the denarius, which led to the melting of many of the older silver pieces, including Tiberius'.  Here are a couple of affordable Tiberius coins I wouldn't kick out of bed:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/london_ancient_coins/89/product/tiberius_1437__as__rome__r_rudder_with_globe/1512654/Default.aspx

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/david_connors/41/product/tiberius_ae27_dupondius_commagene__caduceus_between_crossed_cornucopia/1512560/Default.aspx

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/london_ancient_coins/89/product/tiberius_1437_phrygia_eumeneia___kleon_agapetos_magistrate/1287359/Default.aspx

I should mention that I've bought coins from both of those sellers and been very happy in all instances :) 

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On 9/15/2021 at 9:33 PM, RWB said:

When the story is false, the coin must stand on its own merits.

Well I am not a authority on the story or the coin so I can not judge. But I like them both.

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