Jacob S Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Hi guys. I was wondering if you would consider grading this coin. Either way very happy with it. Link to post Share on other sites
Dimeman Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Looks very nice. My guess from pic would be 40-50. Do you collect by JR Number? Link to post Share on other sites
MarkFeld Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Welcome to the forum. Your 1821 (not 1921 😉) dime looks like an easy AU to me. Old Pueblo 1 Link to post Share on other sites
scopru Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 low AU on the 1821.. So when do you post pics of the 1921 capped bust? Link to post Share on other sites
Jacob S Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Dimeman said: Looks very nice. My guess from pic would be 40-50. Do you collect by JR Number? I am a very new collector but it certainly interests me. Link to post Share on other sites
Jacob S Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, MarkFeld said: Welcome to the forum. Your 1821 (not 1921 😉) dime looks like an easy AU to me. Dang typos. Thank you. Would you be worried about the scratches on the right side of the obverse? Link to post Share on other sites
MarkFeld Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jacob S said: Dang typos. Thank you. Would you be worried about the scratches on the right side of the obverse? You're most welcome. If you mean at the rim on the far right, that area is a negative/detraction. Link to post Share on other sites
Dimeman Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Jacob S said: Dang typos. Thank you. Would you be worried about the scratches on the right side of the obverse? To me that should not keep it from grading. Old Bust coins are allowed some imperfections. Like Mark said though......it is a slight distraction. I will look it up and see what JR # it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Jacob S Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Dimeman said: To me that should not keep it from grading. Old Bust coins are allowed some imperfections. Like Mark said though......it is a slight distraction. I will look it up and see what JR # it is. I believe it is a JR-7. I will be sending it in if not more than to give it some extra protection. I am pretty new to collecting and appreciate everyone's help. Link to post Share on other sites
jtryka Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I think this is a nice looking coin, but my fear would be that NGC might net grade the coin for the damage on the rim. My experience has been that most TPGs are consistently inconsistent when it comes to grading bust material. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post scopru Posted November 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, jtryka said: My experience has been that most TPGs are consistently inconsistent when it comes to grading bust material. I suppose that would be because all busts are not created equal. VKurtB, ronnie stein and Insider 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dimeman Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, Jacob S said: I believe it is a JR-7. I will be sending it in if not more than to give it some extra protection. I am pretty new to collecting and appreciate everyone's help. You are correct. It is a JR7 which is a R2. I personally think it will grade. Good luck on your submission. Link to post Share on other sites
RWB Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Very nice solid EF and certainly worth having authenticated and "graded" by a competent 3rd party. The clear centering dots on both sides are a nice bonus, and good "learning points." Link to post Share on other sites
numisport Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Generally a nice coin to me but obverse rim scratches at 3:00 look like tooling though and should result in a details grade if they were consistent. Link to post Share on other sites
Just Bob Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Another dime with an interesting die clash. Link to post Share on other sites
Walkerfan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Well-detailed example!! Link to post Share on other sites
Quintus Arrius Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 1:08 PM, RWB said: Very nice solid EF and certainly worth having authenticated and "graded" by a competent 3rd party. The clear centering dots on both sides are a nice bonus, and good "learning points." At the risk of confirming my rank amateur status, I must say I have never ever seen "centering dots" and this is the very first time I have ever even heard of them -- and I have been collecting all manner of U.S. coins since Marilyn Monroe passed in 1962. Link to post Share on other sites
jtryka Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said: At the risk of confirming my rank amateur status, I must say I have never ever seen "centering dots" and this is the very first time I have ever even heard of them -- and I have been collecting all manner of U.S. coins since Marilyn Monroe passed in 1962. Centering dots were used quite often on early coinage and can be a key diagnostic for die marriages. I can only speak for Bust halves which I collect, and they can be found on the obverse as in this case or on the reverse within the shield, which you can also see on this example. Edited December 22, 2020 by jtryka Link to post Share on other sites
RWB Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said: At the risk of confirming my rank amateur status, I must say I have never ever seen "centering dots" and this is the very first time I have ever even heard of them -- and I have been collecting all manner of U.S. coins since Marilyn Monroe passed in 1962. For many years a steel or pen compass was used to scribe guide circles for inscriptions and other hand-punched details. Usually, these guide lines and the center point were effaced from completed dies. Sometimes, possibly from haste, removal was incomplete. It is this surface abrasion that created most of the so-called "early proof" coins -- much like proof-like Morgans 50 years later. Link to post Share on other sites
