Is CoinTalk.com a scam?
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I recently created an account and participated in about 6 conversations in the forum. I was answering questions that users were asking about what their coins were worth. In a matter of about 30 minutes, the website stopped working for me and upon reload, I was notified that my account was banned.

I tried contacting CoinTalk.com through their form and I received no response.

It's 100% clear that the owners of CoinTalk.com provide no value to the numismatic community, they are just carpetbaggers who are making money off of your wasted time.

I am a legitimate coin collector and numismatist - I come up as the first person on Google when you search for "numismatist". The information I posted was genuinely helpful to the conversation threads.

This leads me to one conclusion - CointTalk (cointalk.com) must be a scam website, moderated by some person or team who is only using the website to spread fake news or promote their own products or business. Furthermore, after reading many threads, it was very clear that none of the conversations had any meaningful substance or helpful information related to coin collecting.

Do not waste your time with CoinTalk.com, it's completely useless and you will likely get banned.

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You are incorrect, coin talk is not a scam, they are not gaining anything or stealing or taking anything from anyone.  It was your choice to go there, open an account and post, the only thing you lost was your time which you gave by your own free will.  I am not a member there but have heard from others that have also been banned that it is heavily moderated, the common thing all those individuals have is that they were all banned, so there is that.

As a side note I did not see your name G_P when I did a google search for numismatist, the first thing to come up was wikipedia.

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@Coinbuf what value does cointalk.com provide to the numismatic community?

I am Grant Powell, and as you scroll past Wikipedia, Merriam, APMEX, etc., you will see that "I come up as the first person on Google" - usually on page 1, sometimes on page 2 (depending on what region you are searching from).

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Just now, G_P said:

@Coinbuf what value does cointalk.com provide to the numismatic community?

I am Grant Powell, and as you scroll past Wikipedia, Merriam, APMEX, etc., you will see that "I come up as the first person on Google" - usually on page 1, sometimes on page 2 (depending on what region you are searching from).

I did not make any statement about if or not coin talk provides any value to the coin collecting community; as I said I am not a member there nor do I spend time lurking there.  How do you measure what each forum; here, PCGS, coin talk, and any other; provides?  I think that each individual will make the assessment on if one or multiple forums provide him/her any knowledge or value biased on the individual needs and wants.  I know of many people that do not find the PCGS forum a good use of their time and the opposite can be said of this forum, however I cannot say that I have ever seen anyone on either of those two forums (even banned members of one) call one or the other a scam.

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3 hours ago, bsshog40 said:

I have been a member on CT for quite a while now. Never had any problems.  Quite a few members from here and ATS venture there also. 

So have I and I haven't had any problems either.  Also, I have had many good coin and paper money experiences while there.

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1 hour ago, G_P said:

@Coinbuf@Alex in PA. Well, it's not of use to me if I get banned. I certainly won't waste any more of my time attempting to share any of my knowledge on that forum.

I just might be the biggest critic of CoinTalk you will EVER encounter. It is not a scam. It is a legit site. That said, it is owned by, and moderated by, some of the most active self-gluteal osculatory people you will ever find. It is a clique of personalities. Their moderation is heavy-handed, inconsistent in application, and not subject to appeal or protest. Kiss the rump of management all the time and you’ll be fine. They surely do for one another.

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3 minutes ago, Alex in PA. said:

I guess I'd better pay more attention when I'm on that site.

:preach:

Once Doug decides he doesn’t like you, you WILL be targeted for banning. It may take awhile, but it WILL happen.

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6 minutes ago, G_P said:

How many of you would be interested a better-managed coin forum, eh? Or do you feel that NGC and ATS offer everything the coin community needs?

I think that up until now, this has been “the answer”. Unfortunately, there is presently an active threat by THIS site’s management to make it more like CoinTalk, and that is not only a bad idea, but a tragedy.

So, yeah, stay tuned and stay ready. You may be needed soon. I have a “boomer” attitude that doesn’t blend well with snowflakeism.

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1 hour ago, VKurtB said:

I think that up until now, this has been “the answer”. Unfortunately, there is presently an active threat by THIS site’s management to make it more like CoinTalk, and that is not only a bad idea, but a tragedy.

So, yeah, stay tuned and stay ready. You may be needed soon. I have a “boomer” attitude that doesn’t blend well with snowflakeism.

NGC has always been far better when it comes to leniency than any other forum I've been on. They may have just refreshed the rules lately as we have been getting members that at times have gone over the edge. The rules were brought up to just try to reign in some of the people getting outside the lines. If anyone gets banned, I believe it will be for a very good reason!  

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1 hour ago, bsshog40 said:

NGC has always been far better when it comes to leniency than any other forum I've been on. They may have just refreshed the rules lately as we have been getting members that at times have gone over the edge. The rules were brought up to just try to reign in some of the people getting outside the lines. If anyone gets banned, I believe it will be for a very good reason!  

It seems to me NGC has a choice to make. Take the newly renewed activity that is undeniably here now and accept the risk of occasionally “edgy” posts, or remain forever mired in the status of Sleepy Hollow. They get to pick, and I get to vote with my metaphorical feet. Not a threat, a promise. We have one too many CoinTalks already. NGC needs to find a way to serve the unserved community of non-YouRube misled coin enthusiasts.

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2 hours ago, VKurtB said:

It seems to me NGC has a choice to make. Take the newly renewed activity that is undeniably here now and accept the risk of occasionally “edgy” posts, or remain forever mired in the status of Sleepy Hollow. They get to pick, and I get to vote with my metaphorical feet. Not a threat, a promise. We have one too many CoinTalks already. NGC needs to find a way to serve the unserved community of non-YouRube misled coin enthusiasts.

This has been Sleepy Hollow for the over 14 yrs I've been here and they are still here with knowledgeable members who contribute greatly to keeping this forum alive. I like it as it is. We don't get lost in the misc stuff that lives ATS. We get a few rocky members here and there, as does every other forum does, and most get tired and leave. The one's that get use to this place are the one's that grow respect for the members and stay to become respected member themselves. 

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1 hour ago, bsshog40 said:

This has been Sleepy Hollow for the over 14 yrs I've been here and they are still here with knowledgeable members who contribute greatly to keeping this forum alive. I like it as it is. We don't get lost in the misc stuff that lives ATS. We get a few rocky members here and there, as does every other forum does, and most get tired and leave. The one's that get use to this place are the one's that grow respect for the members and stay to become respected member themselves. 

Well I am the MOST “liked” poster here for the past month, 2nd for the past year (365 days), and 3rd all time. Not too shabby, eh? Yet somehow Jason dislikes me intensely. Whose problem is that, he asks rhetorically?

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3 hours ago, VKurtB said:

Well I am the MOST “liked” poster here for the past month, 2nd for the past year (365 days), and 3rd all time. Not too shabby, eh? Yet somehow Jason dislikes me intensely. Whose problem is that, he asks rhetorically?

I like you.😎☘❤

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CT has its own "vibe" and some very knowledgeable members just like all the other sites.  Not everyone fits with the culture in all forums.  I wasn't a fan of the place and I found a couple other forums more to my liking.  To each his own as the saying goes.  OP sounds like he ruffled the wrong feathers in some way and got the boot - rightly or wrongly.  Or possibly there is a back story and history that we are only getting one side of.  :devil:

7 hours ago, VKurtB said:

Well I am the MOST “liked” poster here for the past month, 2nd for the past year (365 days), and 3rd all time. Not too shabby, eh?

Not to shabby at all.  (thumbsu  Sarcasm and witty remarks go a long way to getting likes not necessarily respect as it relates to subject matter.  One I will hit like more often than the other.  

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25 minutes ago, Morpheus1967 said:

What is your username over there @G_P?  I want to see what you said that got you banned. 

You won't be able to see what I said because my posts were removed. I was answering questions related to people asking what their coins are worth - I am somewhat of a specialist in coin valuation: https://numismag.com/en/2020/10/19/experts-word-grant-powell-numiis-modern-tools-for-coins-valuation/

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1 hour ago, G_P said:

I was answering questions related to people asking what their coins are worth

Makes me wonder (since we can not see the posts) if you stepped on toes by providing a LOW value on a coin others (or the coin owner) thought should have a HIGH value and had paid a large amount for.

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2 hours ago, G_P said:

You won't be able to see what I said because my posts were removed. I was answering questions related to people asking what their coins are worth - I am somewhat of a specialist in coin valuation: https://numismag.com/en/2020/10/19/experts-word-grant-powell-numiis-modern-tools-for-coins-valuation/

Unless you appropriately (in his mind) sufficiently genuflected every time Doug the Chief Moderator typed His "Great Indisputable Knowledge and Wisdom From On High", you got banned for that alone, regardless of what anyone here or elsewhere says. Truth. 

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On 11/16/2020 at 4:51 PM, VKurtB said:

I just might be the biggest critic of CoinTalk you will EVER encounter. It is not a scam. It is a legit site. That said, it is owned by, and moderated by, some of the most active self-gluteal osculatory people you will ever find. It is a clique of personalities. Their moderation is heavy-handed, inconsistent in application, and not subject to appeal or protest. Kiss the rump of management all the time and you’ll be fine. They surely do for one another.

[That's an awful lot of rhetorical flash-bangs there, VKurtB!  After a presumably comprehensive background check, I was accepted as a member at CT, so how heavily moderated can it be?  Then again, I won't really know until I summon the courage to speak up over there.  Either way, it doesn't look very promising.  Thing is, no one has a right to post anywhere. It is a privilege which can either be denied at the outset or revoked. This Forum makes that crystal clear in its Guidelines. I can play nice here, (DINA's Law) or go play elsewhere. Fair enough.]

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20 hours ago, bsshog40 said:

This has been Sleepy Hollow for the over 14 yrs I've been here and they are still here with knowledgeable members who contribute greatly to keeping this forum alive. I like it as it is. We don't get lost in the misc stuff that lives ATS. We get a few rocky members here and there, as does every other forum does, and most get tired and leave. The one's that get use to this place are the one's that grow respect for the members and stay to become respected member themselves. 

Bet.  If anyone asks I will tell them you extended an invitation, which I accepted, and I subsequently decided to stick around. 😉

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