Idea on 1855-C Gold Dollar Grade
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Hello all,

Newb to the board here, relatively long-term gold / silver bug, and enjoy some collectibles.  Many years ago, I acquired a handful of 1850s gold dollars.  One of them turned out to be a pretty rare 1855-C.  The coin condition is "pretty poor" in my very unexperienced opinion, so I haven't taken the time to consider getting it graded.  After doing a little more research on the recently graded coins, I came to realize that maybe I am wrong in my opinion.  In order to help me get an idea of the category of coin to submit this under (or whether it is even worth it), can you please give me an idea of what range this may grade in?  Should I submit in the "Ask NGC" section of the forum?

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Here is the site that has some recently graded coins that I'm referencing - https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1855-c-g-1/7533 

Thank you!

 

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Welcome to the boards, I'm sorry to say that it looks like the coin you have is a fake IMO from the photos you have shown.

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Oh no!  Thank you for your input. Luckily I did not pay much for it.  What makes you say that?  Why fake a damaged coin?  More believable?

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I'm not convinced it is a fake, but it has been mounted for use as jewelry which will GREATLY hurt the value if it is real.  If it hadn't been damaged /mounted in that condition it might have been a 2000 to 2400 coin.  With the damage and mounting, if it is real, maybe $600.  The a guesses on the value nothing exact.

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Well I don't know that is a counterfeit for sure but the surfaces look strange as I have not seen gold coins with pitted surfaces before.  Also your statement "Luckily I did not pay much for it" also gives me pause about the authenticity of the coin.  But I'm not a gold coin expert and have had limited exposure to C mint gold so hopefully another member with more experience in this area can help out.

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I too question if it is genuine. The strike looks strange to me and the date is very strong for what is commonly a very soft and poorly struck area. I see addition questionable areas on the obverse as well. 

I very collectible issue with a low survival rate. Don't take my word for it - but I believe it is fake.

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The photos are too blurry to reliably assess authenticity, but the damage is pretty obvious.  Regardless, this one should go straight to NGC for certification.

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Thank you all for your input.  I sincerely appreciate it.  From your responses, I'm thinking the best course of action for me would be to get an initial idea on the authenticity by measuring it.  What is an acceptable amount of weight for this coin to be "missing"?  5%?  If it measures within the acceptable specs to rule out an obvious fake, I will consider sending it in.

Would NGC grade a damaged coin?  Conder101's estimate of $600 would make it worth grading.

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2 hours ago, Andrey Shvetsov said:

Thank you all for your input.  I sincerely appreciate it.  From your responses, I'm thinking the best course of action for me would be to get an initial idea on the authenticity by measuring it.  What is an acceptable amount of weight for this coin to be "missing"?  5%?  If it measures within the acceptable specs to rule out an obvious fake, I will consider sending it in.

Would NGC grade a damaged coin?  Conder101's estimate of $600 would make it worth grading.

The diameter should be 15mm target weight was 1.67 grams, yes as long as NGC determines the coin to be authentic but damaged they will grade and slab it with a details grade.

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