French 20-franc gold rooster 1 1

[Henri Charriere]

As the owner of the No.: 1 Registry Set of the above-titled matter [Rooster Roster] my question to collectors is why is it both TPG have produced the following glaringly disparate grading populations results for the following years, as follows:   1899-1906, Mint State-67 = Zero or None (unavailable at any price despite mintages well into the millions.

By contrast, 1907-1914, Mint State-67 = 40  (pejoratively dismissed as re-strikes)

My question posed to fellow rooster collectors who have been stymied in completing their quality compilations is why do you suppose that is?

[RWB]

As stated by many on the other rooster thread you started: 1) no qualifying pieces have been submitted; 2) none exist. That's about all one can say.

[Moxie15]

I collect French minor coinage and it is my opinion that the French Mints of the nineteenth century was not concerned with quality and the coins show it.

[Henri Charriere]

A tidbit for Rooster aficionados...

"Until the year 1912 the '9' of the date is 'closed,' in 1913 and 1914 it is open."

"The 1914 was re-minted in 202,359 copies in 1921."

"The coins from 1907 to 1914 were re-minted between 1951 to 1960 at 37,483,500 copies.  They are distinguished from the originals (1899-1906) by a more reddish color."

"There were a number of 1898 prototypes made (mintage unknown)"

"Matt blanks for both the 1899 and 1900 is what gives this coin its rarity [in addition to regular issues]."

🐓 

[Cat Bath]

Cool trivia and thanks.

I'm in the hunt for both years of the open-9

It will probably take awhile 

[Henri Charriere]

[There are a number of varieties and errors in the series which, for whatever reason, are not formally recognized. For example, the original segment, 1899-1906, all have raised lettering on the edge reading, "God Protect France." The restrikes, 1907-1914, read "Liberty * Fraternity * Equality. But some of the 1907's (I believe) were minted with the old slogan. It is quite possible I may have one but I would have to de-encapsulate it to find out. Funny how you know something exists, but it is not formally acknowledged. Anywhere.  I wish you all the best on your rooster hunt!

[Henri Charriere]

On 7/6/2020 at 2:32 PM, Moxie15 said:

I collect French minor coinage and it is my opinion that the French Mints of the nineteenth century was not concerned with quality and the coins show it.

I don't know how this slipped by me. (They named a soda pop after you in New England!)  I believe you are correct but the reason I wouldn't know is because the Coq Marianne series began in 1899.