Soo grateful to have NGC! 0

[bsshog40]

Not sure how many here venture ATS, but lately, I have never seen a public forum in all my hobbies that gets soo censored. I understand it is their forum, but the last couple months it seems their censorship and bannings have just gone over the edge. EVERY forum I am a member of , not just coins, have an open topic category for those that just like to post things about life. ATS doesn't allow anything that isn't coin related or mentions any negativity towards PCGS. At least NGC has let conversations go pretty far, even at the expense of someone possibly not happy with NGC service or one of their coins. There is zero tolerance ATS. It's a shame because some of the off topics do have some good questions and/or info. Oh well, I guess you just have to learn to kiss butt and tread lightly over there to survive! 

[kbbpll]

I have not even looked there in six+ months. The president himself started a topic about their "unwritten rules", and when I asked what their rules were for removing threads that were somehow deemed embarrassing to them, I was immediately banned. The president simultaneously insinuates that I'm involved in some kind of conspiracy, with a new "Rule 11" - "If a user is banned for violating rules and/or being rude and another user attempts to turn it into a conspiracy about something completely unrelated, that user will also be banned." The whole "we're the best, we're infallible" thing over there is nuts. It sounds like it hasn't changed. Like you, I appreciate NGC.

[Coinbuf]

It was something of a blood bath this week, I think the mods over there are of the young generation which values the safe space concept so they are quick to banish.  Like you both I appreciate NGC's more layed back stance, however that does have its own thorns from time to time as we have seen over the last week on the newbie question section with one unhinged individual.    But for the most part its far more comfortable here without the ax hovering over you as it is there.

[kbbpll]

There's no love lost over there with me. If they spent half the time researching unique coins that they spend playing Stalin on their forum, I think they'd be a lot better off.

[Walkerfan]

Some very well-known and long time posters got axed over there, this week, and it got very ugly.  They don't tolerate political agendas well, over there, as it is not coin related, and it became very abusive and discriminatory towards certain groups.  Honestly, I don't blame them, as it doesn't reflect well on PCGS, especially, in these turbulent times.  Although, I will miss the members who had a momentary lapse of reason....It is very unfortunate.  I post a lot over there but  the NGC forums was and is my first home.

[LINCOLNMAN]

Having reviewed some of the comments that have gotten members banned ATS, I noticed that there were comments that were somewhat ambiguous or offensive only to a very sensitive reader. My overall sense is that they are overreacting ATS, perhaps intentionally in order to finally quash political OT or generally offensive posts. Good luck with that. 

[bsshog40]

Well I have noticed it more in the last 2 months of stay at home living. I really didn't see a lot of the threads that got shut down were really offensive to anyone. Some of the threads were just basic topics of what has been going on in life and in our nation. It looked more like casual conversation to me and most threads were poofed in no time. Most people had nothing better to do than ask what everyone else were doing. Seemed pretty innocent to me but I guess ats is only concerned about their end of the hobby. 

[ldhair]

A lot of folks thought Don was tough when he wrote the new rules, years ago. Maybe he was more fair than he got credit for. One thing is for sure, you must be very careful of what you post over there. Friendly chat should be allowed. It should be part of any coin forum. 

[Alex in PA.]

March 2004.

[LINCOLNMAN]

4 hours ago, Alex in PA. said:

March 2004.

The last red wedding? 

[TastySnail]

So this is the secret hideout for the renegades

[Conder101]

Or the Leper colony.

[Coinbuf]

Not much of a secret