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[Fenntucky Mike]

Onchan Internment Camp, located on the Isle of Man, considered the "best" camp for "enemy aliens" to be placed in, amongst the several other camps located there. Onchan was one of the largest camps in terms of size and on the grounds were areas to plant gardens, keep fowl, play organized sports and to move around in general. The internees consisted largely of academics and artists (an unofficial pole of the camp in 1940 listed 121 artists and literary workers, 113 scientists and teachers, 89 engineers, 68 lawyers, 38 physicians, 19 clergymen and 12 dentists amongst the internees) as a result there were art exhibitions, lectures, college classes and a newspaper (The Onchan Pioneer). From June 1940 until July of 1941 the camp housed approximately 1,300 German and Austrian nationals, the camp was reopened in September of 1941 to house Italian internees until its closure in November 1944. Three denominations of tokens circulated at the camp, 6p, 1p and the 1/2 penny.

Edited June 16, 2021 by Fenntucky Mike
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[Henri Charriere]

8 minutes ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

Onchan Internment Camp, located on the Isle of Man, considered the "best" camp for "enemy aliens" to be placed in amongst the several other camps located there. Onchan was one of the largest camps in terms of size and on the grounds were areas to plant gardens, keep fowl, play organized sports and to move around in general. The internees consisted largely of academics and artists (an unofficial pole of the camp in 1940 listed 121 artists and literary workers, 113 scientists and teachers, 89 engineers, 68 lawyers, 38 physicians, 19 clergymen and 12 dentists amongst the internees) as a result there were art exhibitions, lectures, college classes and a newspaper (The Onchan Pioneer). From June 1940 until July of 1941 the camp housed approximately 1,300 German and Austrian nationals, the camp was reopened in September of 1941 to house Italian internees until it's closure in November 1944. Three denominations of tokens circulated at the camp, 6p, 1p and the 1/2 penny.

Interesting for a number of reasons... I have seen coins from the Warsaw Ghetto stamped "Geto," but have never seen one marked "INTERNMENT CAMP," not even in the U.S. which had several at remote locations post-Pearl Harbor. I have also never seen a more curious theme, legs in flight!, for a coin used for a facility whose mission was to keep detainees securely interred, even if it appears on their national flag. 

[Woods020]

1 hour ago, Fenntucky Mike said:

Onchan Internment Camp, located on the Isle of Man, considered the "best" camp for "enemy aliens" to be placed in amongst the several other camps located there. Onchan was one of the largest camps in terms of size and on the grounds were areas to plant gardens, keep fowl, play organized sports and to move around in general. The internees consisted largely of academics and artists (an unofficial pole of the camp in 1940 listed 121 artists and literary workers, 113 scientists and teachers, 89 engineers, 68 lawyers, 38 physicians, 19 clergymen and 12 dentists amongst the internees) as a result there were art exhibitions, lectures, college classes and a newspaper (The Onchan Pioneer). From June 1940 until July of 1941 the camp housed approximately 1,300 German and Austrian nationals, the camp was reopened in September of 1941 to house Italian internees until it's closure in November 1944. Three denominations of tokens circulated at the camp, 6p, 1p and the 1/2 penny.

Fascinating. Thanks for sharing. I learned a few things for sure. 

[Just Bob]

R.T. Sleeper, W.M. Hemeter, D.D. Carter, W.P Martin, and J.W. Rush incorporated the Lyndon Lumber company near Wingate, MS in Perry County, on May 9, 1903. They built a circular saw mill that produced 50,000 board feet of yellow pine lumber a day. They owned 5 locomotives that ran on 12 miles of track. By 1911 all of the trees had been cut, and the equipment was sold. On February 1, 1912, the cut-over land and the mill site were sold to a Mr. Ellis B. Cooper for $1.75 per acre. The company was officially dissolved in 1913. 

I have been putting this set together for several years. I finally found the last piece - the 5 cent token - last week. It was one of the nicest pieces in the set: a nice AU with very shiny fields and a bit of frost on the devices.

 

[Fenntucky Mike]

10 hours ago, Quintus Arrius said:

I have also never seen a more curious theme, legs in flight!, for a coin used for a facility whose mission was to keep detainees securely interred, even if it appears on their national flag.

The triskelion is typically accompanied by the legend/motto Quocunque Jeceris Stabit, roughly translated, "Whithersoever You Throw It, It Will Stand". But an interesting interpretation of the triskelion, by you, considering where it was used. On an internment camp token. I like it. 

[Alex in PA.]

Here is a token, Civil War era, of a Pennsylvania businessman sold coins among other items.  I guess Mr. Idler sold 'Continental Currency'.

[Just Bob]

On August 3rd, 1938, Mssrs. H.J.Wilson, D.A. Graves, and H.H Parker filed a record of charter to form the Copiah County Building & Development Co. in Hazlehurst, MS. Its stated purpose was to, among other things, " buy, own, lease, and operate lumber yards,"  "buy, sell, and exchange wares and goods," and to "buy, own, sell, and lease timber and timber lands." 

On March 23, 1943, an amendment to the charter was filed, changing the name to Graves, Inc.

In addition to the $0.25, $0.50, and $1.00 tokens shown, a $0.05 token was also issued.

 

[James Zyskowski]

Here’s a catch up photo. Was directed here from newbie. See you next Tuesday 

[Henri Charriere]

@Just Bob et al.

Wishing you all a Happy Fourth!

[Fenntucky Mike]

Picked this one up a few weeks ago shortly after I posted the .10 & .25 cent tokens, funny how that works sometimes. Now I'm only missing the .01 and .50 cent issues for this store. The color schemes are almost always the same .01 = black, .05 = green, .10 = blue, .25 = red and .50 = pink. In fact, I haven't seen any food stamp tokens in my region that didn't follow that color pattern. 

[Just Bob]

History by Gil Hoffman:

On June 5, 1901, the May-Easterling Lumber Company, composed of Felix A. May and E. H. Easterling, purchased the timber holdings of C. J. Gray, at Ora, Covington County for $30,480. 

In March 1902 Felix May and other small stockholders sold their stock to F. C. A. Denkmann and associates, of Rock Island, Illinois. E. H. Easterling, president of the May-Easterling Lumber Company, remained with the company.

The company was reorganized as the Easterling Lumber Company, with sales office at Rock Island. The assets were transferred to the Easterling Lumber Company on May 5, 1902, for $75,000 cash. 

On June 5, 1917, the mill property was sold to the Tallahala Lumber Company, of Ellisville, Jones County.

 

All of these tokens, with the exception of the $1 and $2, are common. There is also an octagonal $5 token that is very rare (probably only two, or maybe three, known to exist.) 

I kept the same setting and distance for all of the pictures, to give an idea of the relative size of the tokens.

 

 

[Henri Charriere]

Fleeting thought:  if production of the cent, with as little copper as it presently has, is expensive, maybe the Mint ought to consider bi-metallic as was done here.  Great set!

[Mr_Spud]

I purchased this token recently off of eBay after reading that these were used in the mint in their break room vending machines. They weren’t allowed to carry real coins in their pockets and they had to use these instead. I haven’t received it yet, these were the auction image. I’m probably going to soak it in mineral oil to get rid of the verdigris and crud. 

Edited July 30, 2021 by Mr_Spud

[Henri Charriere]

@Mr_Spud  If you can resist the irresistible impulse to bathe your token in various liquids, why not consult the King of Tokens, our very own Just Bob as this is his area of expertise. Any inadviseable choice you make considering the composition of coin/token at issue may well be irreversible and the last thing you need is someone dismissing your possession with upturned nose as "cleaned."

[Mr_Spud]

Thanks @Quintus Arrius

@Just Bob Do you have any advice regarding the token pictures 2 posts up? Would a soak in mineral oil be advisable? 

Edited July 30, 2021 by Mr_Spud

[Just Bob]

On 7/30/2021 at 5:46 PM, Mr_Spud said:

Thanks @Quintus Arrius

@Just Bob Do you have any advice regarding the token pictures 2 posts up? Would a soak in mineral oil be advisable? 

There are many members here who know much more about tokens and conservation than I, and I suspect that you are one of those. You certainly don't need my advice. But, since we both have been put on the spot, and since you asked, I will respond with some advice that I was given years ago, for the benefit of future readers of this thread.

The following quote is compliments of Conder101, responding to a thread in which I had asked for suggestions about conserving a token that I had bought:

"Looks like active corrosion. Might try a soak in an oil based product such as olive oil, mineral oil or blue ribbon, then use a rose thorn to remove any loosened corrosion product. You may have to do a few cycles of soak then thorn. (The thorn is also good for getting any dirt or "crud" out from around the devices, it is soft enough it should not scratch, strong enough to dig out the crud, and comes to a small enough point that it gets into the smallest places.)

 

Then use acetone to remove all of the oil and to throughly dry the token. (one thing the corrosion need to work is to water and the rough area of the corrosion will hold onto water molecules very well. The acetone gets in there and "dissolves" out the water and carries it off. It acts as a drying agent.) After the acetone you might want to then apply a very thin layer of blue ribbon or mineral oil to the token to seal out moisture from the corrosion area. (The oil fills the nooks and crannies in the corrosion keeping the water vapor in the air out of them.)

 

Now the corroded areas will still look rough and pitted but it should look better than the active corrosion and will help stop it from getting any worse."

[Mr_Spud]

Thank you very much! 🌞

[Henri Charriere]

@Just Bob  🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓

[Henri Charriere]

@Mr_Spud  if it is not an imposition, I am sure those of us who have followed this thread would be curious as to its outcome.  We have the "before" photos; now all we need are the "after" shots... if you are pleased with the results, and are so inclined. Much obliged! And a special mention of Just Bob's good-natured cooperation!

[Mr_Spud]

Ok, but I might let it soak in mineral oil for a very long time, but I’ll repost the before images along with some after images when it’s done 🌞

[Henri Charriere]

On 7/31/2021 at 11:07 PM, Mr_Spud said:

Ok, but I might let it soak in mineral oil for a very long time, but I’ll repost the before images along with some after images when it’s done 🌞

I think we'd all be interested in the outcome.

[Henri Charriere]

On 7/31/2021 at 11:07 PM, Mr_Spud said:

Ok, but I might let it soak in mineral oil for a very long time, but I’ll repost the before images along with some after images when it’s done 🌞

My friend, all we have is time and the best things in life are well worth waiting for.  Besides, don't we all have an innate desire to find out how things turned out?

[Just Bob]

I am lazily re-posting something from an earlier thread, but it fits here:

What is a "Doo-ga-loo?" you ask. Well, it is a slang name for a trade token. They were also known as Brozenes, Doodlum, or Counters, among other names. These were used in place of money at various times in the past. This particular one is from the 1950s, and was found under the cork in a metal bottle cap.The finder could redeem the token for its face value in cash. Double Cola was one of the popular issuers of these, but this particular one was under the cap of a Big 12 Cola.It is from the town of Macon, Mississippi, and is made of very thin aluminum - so thin that it can be bent quite easily. And, it is only readable from one side, like a dogtag. They were minted in 5 cent and 10 cent denominations, and this one is the former. I also included a picture of one of the bottles, from an Ebay listing.

 

[Henri Charriere]

@Just Bob Oldie but goodie... great stuff!

[Just Bob]

After working for the Maryland and Stonewall plantations in Holmes County, Mississippi, R.Lee "Uncle Buddy" Peaster, along with his wife "Miss Mable," purchased the Dunbarton plantation, and later, the Quofaloma plantation, which adjoined the Dunbarton. This was in 1905, and he ran the store there until 1940, when he turned it over to Mr. Guy Campbell. He also owned a store in Mileston, MS, and is listed as the owner of the Paradise Plantation, although I was unable to find out if this was a separate plantation, or if he changed the name of one that he had purchased earlier. 

The 5 cent token that I own is listed as an R5 (15-24 known.) There are also 10 cent and one dollar tokens known to exist - both also listed as R5.

 

[Mohawk]

This is a cool thread.....I don't have a single token to share, but I've enjoyed seeing the ones posted.  Thanks for sharing those everyone!

Edited September 1, 2021 by Mohawk

[Mohawk]

Actually, it just dawned on me that I have something that may be a token. At least, sort of.  This is what is called a limes denarius.  What this is, is a denarius, but struck in some sort of copper alloy metal instead of silver.  The thing is that it's not known decisively what they really are.  They could be contemporary counterfeits, semi-official issues used along the borders of the empire where coinage could be scarce or, possibly, military scrip of some kind.  Because it may be official military scrip, I decided I wanted one, and which is why it may actually be a token.  And please forgive the less than stellar seller's pics......I used those so I could get it in at least close to actual Token Tuesday.  My limes denarius is made in the image of a Faustina the Younger denarius (surprise, surprise), RIC #690.  I'm sure we'll never know for sure, but I like to think mine is a souvenir of the Marcomannic Wars.

Edited September 1, 2021 by Mohawk

[Just Bob]

It took wiping my laptop and reloading Windows, but I finally got it to communicate with my phone again, so I can resume loading pictures and posting here.

The Beverly Drive-In was opened in 1948, with one screen and an 800 car capacity. It had a miniature golf course out front. The owner and his family lived in a house under the screen. A second screen was added in 1979. The owner passed away in 1987, and the theater closed. It was reopened in 2001, and remained open until it was heavily damaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. It burned down in 2010.

I spent quite a few nights watching movies at this theater, at first with my family, later with friends and dates. In my late teens, I owned a pickup with a camper shell on back. We would throw a mattress in the back, pull into the parking place with the rear of the truck facing the screen, lower the tailgate and raise the camper shell liftgate, and lie in the back and watch the movie.

 

[RonnieR131]

Thanks for the memories Just Bob, good times. Sad photo, but amazing that you have a before and after picture.

[Revenant]

Here's a fun one for those of us old enough to remember when phones looked like this: a phone (booth?) token.