2 1970s Lincoln cents 1 1

[Jonescoins]

I found two 1970s pennies one definitely look like it's a small because of the nine is curving towards the seven. It does look like a little Doubled if MD or not so if someone could tell me,if it's a small or what ? Thank you in advance.as well I hope all is good

Edited March 31, 2020 by Jonescoins

[Just Bob]

The pictures are not very clear, but they both look like large dates to me. Notice how the "7" is lower than the "9" and the "0"? The loop of the "9" also appears to point toward the mint mark, rather than toward the "7".

Compare your coin with this picture of a Large Date cent:

 

 

 

 

And, here is a Small Date cent:

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Just Bob
Photo from the Cent Project website

[JKK]

For every novice collector who is singing along in the background and trying to gain a better understanding of coin surfaces, both of JB's photos do an excellent job of showing the flow lines as they radiate like a zillion bicycle spokes. When we look at a coin that you think is uncirculated, and tell you that it is not, often what we saw was a pattern of eroded flow lines due to very light circulation. They are among the very first things to go, and we can see them even on weak strike coins like some Peace dollar issues where detail is missing on high points and the initial assumption is that it's circulation wear. You can learn good stuff from these photos.

[RonnieR131]

thank u JB, I've never been able to judge the low 7, even with laying a paper edge across 9 to the 0, the curl in the nine, etc., nothing. What I needed to know was the loop of the nine pointing towards the 7 or the mint mark, plain and simple. Easy for my eyesight, big time saver, and know it for life now. A sincere thanks. Hope I didn't butt in on a thread, but just had to say, FINALLY, I get it.

[RonnieR131]

and thank u JKK. Glad ya'll don't charge tuition, I'd have to go get a student loan. 

[Jonescoins]

Ok thanks 😊 just Bob

[Jonescoins]

Hello 😀 well I hope I took better pic, because as I said I really thought the nine was pointing at the 7 .now the  second 1970s is a large date.yet! The first 1970s look like it been struck over with a different 7 .. even the mint mark is out of place.maybe I'm just seeing to much I guess

Edited April 8, 2020 by Jonescoins

[Greenstang]

Mint Marks were hand punched then so it is not "out of place", it was just punched in a different location.

[Jonescoins]

See I told you I'm learning 😉,it just was different to the eye.thanks again

[KarenHolcomb]

See, I always just jump to the LIBERTY, which says they are both a Large Dates and I can tell because the LIBERTY is clear and well struck.. 

Edited April 8, 2020 by KarenHolcomb
Cause I can't see.

[KarenHolcomb]

Ima change my answer and swear that top is indeed a Small Date. Yep, sure enough I do believe it is.

[Jonescoins]

Thank you.👍 I know it's not the best looking coin, from what diagnosis is telling me that it was a small date. Yet the appearance look like a large date.so I just keep at it.thanks guys

[VKurtB]

Jonesy,

i am leaning toward the one with the "high and tight" mintmark as a SD. I think the relative sharpness of LIBERTY may be due to digital sharpening. I agree the 9 has the type of shape we look for in SD examples, plus that high and tight mintmark is a "permissive" diagnostic. All SD's have high and tight mintmarks but not all high and tight mintmarks are SD's. I will repeat here my personal belief that there are not two, but THREE varieties of 1970-S cents. No, the numismatic community has not accepted that, but my aim is to someday "force" them to with highly detailed photomicrographs in a future ANA convention exhibit. I am only partially homebound now so it'll still probably need to wait for my actual retirement. I have over 500 BU Red 1970-S cents to work with, most of which have not even been checked for SD's.

Edited April 8, 2020 by VKurtB

[Jonescoins]

That's good information Vkurt . because it is very hard to tell the difference from a few .

[Jonescoins]

That's good information Vkurt . because it is very hard to tell the difference from a few .to add to that is this 1970 d hard to tell yet it's a large date.look at the 9 curl to the 7