VKurtB 796 posts Report post Posted June 10, 2019 This past weekend I was able to grab a 1785 New York bar cent at auction. I checked the diagnostics, and it is NOT the Civil War era reproduction. The A is over the S, not under. Here's the problem - it has some corrosion, both sides, but the bar side is cleaner than the USA side. The corrosion will likely prevent a straight grade, but I'd like to have NGC look at it for verification and a details grade. Is this a piece that NGC will do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LINCOLNMAN 487 posts Report post Posted June 10, 2019 I would say "yes" and a details grade may not be that big a deal on a colonial. I have a few and they look as good as some straight-graded examples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just Bob 4,569 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 Got pictures? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
World Colonial 3,739 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 If that's a "cherrypick", that's quite a find. I also understand NGC will evaluate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VKurtB 796 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Just Bob said: Got pictures? Soon. I don't keep a photo rig set up regularly. My Sony mirrorless has been being outfitted with Smallrig cage accessories for a trip across the pond to "the blessed plot". Maybe my low power microscope. I am for sure bringing it to Rosemont in August for the EAC meeting at the ANA show. 14 hours ago, World Colonial said: If that's a "cherrypick", that's quite a find. I also understand NGC will evaluate it. Yes, it may be the pickiest pick this picker has e'er picked up. I'm still checking it for all the diagnostics I can find and "so far, so good". I just wish the USA side was less pitted. Don't get me wrong. It's not a "hot mess", but I'm usually a condition snob. A back-country auction in York County, PA very near to the Maryland line. I won't quote what I paid. I metaphorically "stole it". Edited June 11, 2019 by VKurtB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just Bob 4,569 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, VKurtB said: Soon. I don't keep a photo rig set up regularly. My Sony mirrorless has been being outfitted with Smallrig cage accessories ... What!? No blurry cell phone pics taken from two feet away? 1 Travis Hale reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokiechan 1,212 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, VKurtB said: I won't quote what I paid. I metaphorically "stole it". You "Stole It", only if it turns out to be authentic. Please let us know the outcome of the NGC Eval. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VKurtB 796 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Mokiechan said: You "Stole It", only if it turns out to be authentic. Please let us know the outcome of the NGC Eval. It was so low a price that even if it is an early fake, which are collectible in their own right, it was a steal. Even the auctioneer had ZERO idea what a bar cent even is. Edited June 11, 2019 by VKurtB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VKurtB 796 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Just Bob said: What!? No blurry cell phone pics taken from two feet away? Self-awareness is the genesis of wisdom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VKurtB 796 posts Report post Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, VKurtB said: Self-awareness is the genesis of wisdom. After throwing SERIOUS light and magnification on it, I'm suspecting a cast fake. A nicely done casting, but I see where the edge was doctored to hide the path of the flowing metal. A few of the "corrosion pits" are RAISED. Also, a few bars are iffy. Even so, for what I paid for it, it's worth it as a piece for a talk on pre-federal fakes. Edited June 11, 2019 by VKurtB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robec1347 4,756 posts Report post Posted June 12, 2019 23 hours ago, VKurtB said: After throwing SERIOUS light and magnification on it, I'm suspecting a cast fake. A nicely done casting, but I see where the edge was doctored to hide the path of the flowing metal. A few of the "corrosion pits" are RAISED. Also, a few bars are iffy. Even so, for what I paid for it, it's worth it as a piece for a talk on pre-federal fakes. That's too bad. It would have been a great buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
