Too minor, not recognized?
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I sent a 1840 Germany/Nassau 6 Kruezer in to NGC.  When I first got it I thought it had some dirt or other on it.  But the more I looked at it, the more I felt it was raised metal and part of the coin.  Possibly some sort of mint error.  I don't know much about the different types.  I was going to my coin dealer for some supplies, so I showed it to him.  He agreed that is was likely done at the mint.

I checked "Mint Error" on the submission form.  When it came back the sticker with it said "too minor, not recognized."  The "C" shaped inclusion (I think that's the right word) starts as a thin line on top of and too the right of the lions head.  Widens into a thicker blob as it curves down across his face and chest.  Then narrows again but ends as a big blob across his junk.  For a while I thought it was his junk.  And the German coin designers had been very generous.

So does "two minor" mean the inclusion wasn't big enough to count?  Cause I've seen attributed errors that were way smaller than that.  I'm assuming NGC didn't think it was PMD.  Otherwise it wouldn't have come back "Unc".  It did get a details grade, but that was for cleaned, not damaged.

I'm hoping for some input from people who have more experience with mint errors.  Is this error something that they should have recognized?  Should I fight back a little with NGC?  Or is that just the way it is and I should let it go?

Thanks,

Lance

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Looks like a die break or retained cud, I have no idea as to if any added value due to something like that but I've seen many early 1800 US coins with die breaks and cuds not ever labeled by a TPG.  It's up to you if you want to fight over it but I wouldn't spend the time and effort unless I knew it would add significant value.

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I'm not really concerned about the value.  I plan to keep the coin.  I didn't really send it in for the grade.  More so for the encapsulation.  And to see if it really was a mint error.  I just thought it would be cool to have a label that said it.  Seems lame to pay extra for an experts opinion, then not get any opinion.

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Actually you did receive an opinion, one that says NGC does not recognize the die break or cud as a mint error.  I do get that it sucks to pay extra and not get a notation on the slab.  It is also possible that NGC doesn't think that it happened during the minting process, it would be nice if the tpgs would provide more info as to what they see or think is going on but they don't.

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