EAC: Post your large/half cents or colonials

[Sonia Lopez]

Recently got this '94 LC (whoever can guess the variety, bonus points!), and realized my favorite Large Cent is Liberty Caps, used to be Draped Bust! What is your favorite EAC? Large Cent, half cent or colonial? Sent in for NGC cert. as we speak, i expect xf40-45 at best, or xf details(seems likely) at worst. Let's see what happens.Show off that EAC porn!

 

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[Conder101]

Can't give the variety off the top of my head but I can say it is one of the early ones S-22 to 44.  Sharpness of a 45 to 50, cleaned, rough surfaces with modeate porosity with some heavier pitting on the obv by TY Net maybe an EAC F-15 to VF-20 and I'm leaning toward the lower number.  Don't know what NGC will call it but it should be a details graded piece.  Possibly AU details.  Definitely no lower than XF details.

[Sonia Lopez]

Okay, thanks. What makes you think it is cleaned? I purchased this from an EAC friend net 20, with likely porosity from low quality copper , but didn't think it was cleaned. Am i missing something?

 

[amk1113]

It seems like xf details, idk about cleaning, dont see it but i do see pitting on the coin. its a weak of reverse, so maybe 42. a new member but a long time fan of old copper, so cheers! it likely is xf details, environmental damage. the quality of the copper back in that time, the "cake" wasn't so good and often impacted by some other chemicals that would have effected the coin. but thats early copper for you. EAC net 20.

[Sonia Lopez]

Hi,

 

Yes, I am not so sure about cleaning. Unless he can state why. I do not think the wear on her hair is indicative of cleaning, nor is there any other indication of, nor scratches or dipping, but I 100% agree with pitting. correct, you're right by the way! It is that variety. You seem to know early copper well & it seems Conder101 does as well. I don't know if he knows well about EAC, but he seems to know a lot in general, so kudos to you sir.

 I think it will come back XF details, if it comes back AU details I will be blessed! However I am not sure it will, that is best case scenario.

I am a new member as well, so enjoy the site!

[Sonia Lopez]

From the Mervis Collection, i found a s-37 that has the patina a look like mine, maybe my pics arent that good with reflection, but this one is described as a "deep cameo blue". it looks like mine, but gets a straight grade (granted mine has pitting, but we are talking about cleaning). what you think?

[Sonia Lopez]

updated clearer pics

https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cents/1794-1c-head-of-1794-vf20-ngc-s-37-b-24-high-r6-our-eac-grade-fine-12/a/1200-2464.s

 

(link to mervis s37)

[World Colonial]

I don't collect early copper but I don't think cleaning is a problem on the coin you bought if the image is reasonably accurate.  Most early coinage has been cleaned and as long as the appearance is decent, I don't see it as a problem.  I believe that these coins should be "net graded", just as EAC apparently treats it.  

The coin you bought I believe will receive a "details" grade due to pitting or porosity but that's different to me.  It is a form of damage.  However, based upon your image, the detail is excellent, the strike is sharp and the color looks nice too.

Sheldon came up with the current 70 point scale.  However, as I have commented on the coins I collect, I think the NGC ancients method makes more sense for both early US coinage and the coinage I collect.  Assigning "details" grades to coins with minor problems (such as "surface hairlines") which are among the best known when the coin is acceptable to those who collect it is ridiculous. This is especially so when these "details" coins sometimes or often look better than numerically graded examples that are blast white (silver) or otherwise don't look how a coin of it's age is "supposed" to look like.

[Conder101]

I based my cleaning comments on the color and how the surfaces look to me in the image provided.  I will admit that I do not trust images on the computer, but they are all I have to go on.  Lighting and how the monitor renders the image can sometimes be misleading.

As for my EAC experience I've been a member since 1982 (EAC #1947, they are in the 6000's now) specializing in the early dates.  My set, which is admittedly low grade, is currently somewhere around #17 in the census with 259 varieties.  From 1795 on I lack two sheldon numbered varieties and I have about half of the 94's.  My 93's are weak with only 5 of the 16 varieties.

Your 94 has considerably more sharpness than the S-37 you linked to, but the surfaces and color on the 37 are much nicer. (from what I see in the images)  That is probably one of the nicest 37's in existence.

[coinsandmedals]

Not a bad looking coin! It has quite a bit of meat left to it. I agree with the others that it will likely net grade XF details at NGC and likely with an “environmental damage” label. If I had to hazard a guess at the attribution I would say maybe S-42? The number and position of berries at “E” in “ONE” is a key factor in attributing 1794s. It is hard to discern such details from your pictures, but your coin appears to have a singular berry at “O” in “ONE” and no berries at “T” in “STATES” and a weak “OF” which paired with the position of the ”4” would suggest an S-42. I am curious as to what your thoughts are on the attribution.

[Sonia Lopez]

Hi, 

 

Yeah it is an S-42. it came back xf details, with pitting being noted. yea it wasnt cleaned, and it is a truly beautiful coin. i really love liberty caps in general, especially the overall condition is really nice(just pitted, not really corroded per se), likely due to the low quality of copper they used back then. sorry conder101, my pictures are kinda crappy, my apologies. they seem kind of similar to me in person, the color/toning , just that the rare 37 has more wear, thus more yellowish copper color. that is a truly amazing coin, and it does have nicer , more smooth surfaces than mine.

if you wanna show any of your large cents, it would be truly appreciated. i am an eac member as well, conder. though very new one . 

cheers to all 

[coinsandmedals]

1 minute ago, Sonia Lopez said:

Hi, 

 

Yeah it is an S-42. it came back xf details, with pitting being noted. yea it wasnt cleaned, and it is a truly beautiful coin. i really love liberty caps in general, especially the overall condition is really nice(just pitted, not really corroded per se), likely due to the low quality of copper they used back then. sorry conder101, my pictures are kinda crappy, my apologies. they seem kind of similar to me in person, the color/toning , just that the rare 37 has more wear, thus more yellowish copper color. that is a truly amazing coin, and it does have nicer , more smooth surfaces than mine.

 

cheers to all that helped.

if you wanna show any of your large cents, it would be truly appreciated. i am an eac member as well, conder. though very new one . cheers.

Thank you for sharing the results and attribution! I have been out of EAC for a while, so it is good to know I still have some of the skill set left. I personally like the appearance of your coin. Pitting is never ideal, but overall your coin has pretty good eye appeal!

Completely unrelated, but I am trying to track down an email/phone number for either Doug Bird or Steve Carr. I purchased some supplies (craft 2x2s and fabric slips) from them in the past and I need replacements. Do you have access to their contact information? If so, I can send you a private message with my contact info to share with them if you would not mind.

[Sonia Lopez]

Yea, no problem my friend. check your DMs

[Sonia Lopez]

Results as shown:

looks really nice, good job to anyone who guessed it right (or close to as well, haha)

 

cheers