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I remember when a search for "toned peace" would yield maybe 80-100 results. 40 or so would be the long time listings. Another 20-40 would be the optimistic brown cruds. 5-10 noobies with some decent looks and then a handful of trash here and there that was obviously AT. 

A search today yields 1400 results of mostly this

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-Silver-Peace-Dollar-BU-MS-Rainbow-Color-Toned-Gem/282806995197?hash=item41d89c48fd:g:ZtoAAOSwRbtaTT2Y

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Ah. The famous "Martha Stewart" Peace dollar:

"Place in pan. Bake in a pre-heated oven at 375 for half an hour..."

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And it's not only limited to Peace dollars. The AT doctors run rampant on ebay. Everything from clad qtrs. to kennedy halves and outrageous SAE's. 

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Wow, that is really ugly. 

That seller is well known for making artificially toned coins. If you set up a search on Ebay, you can exclude individual sellers from your search results. That may help filter some of it out. 

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I was thinking the same thing, what a waste of peace dollars.  His concoctions are not even mildly attractive to me.

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Unfortunately the inordinate demand for brightly toned coins creates the incentives for coin doctors to concoct this stuff. Coin doctors really hit a homerun when they are able to get their creations into main stream certification holders. Then the prices can go to the moon, and it does not matter if the toning is natural or artificial.

I am glad that I am not into this “beautifully toned coin mania.” It’s becoming scourge for the hobby because some good coins are getting ruined, and some people who are paying premiums for this stuff are going to find out that they will lose a lot of money. Telling them that they should have done their homework or listened to those know what they are doing does no good. Many of those people go off half cocked and say the whole hobby is nothing but a scam.

If you are new the hobby, here is a bit of advice from someone who has been a collector for close to 60 years. Just say no to paying high prices for neon colored coins. There is good chance that you are buying came from a bottle or a fry pan, not from nature.

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16 hours ago, BillJones said:

 

If you are new the hobby, here is a bit of advice from someone who has been a collector for close to 60 years. Just say no to paying high prices for neon colored coins. There is good chance that you are buying came from a bottle or a fry pan, not from nature.

This is really not a fair statement.  Yes, there is a lot of garbage, but with a little knowledge, you can avoid pitfalls.

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This is really not a fair statement.  Yes, there is a lot of garbage, but with a little knowledge, you can avoid pitfalls.

I'd say it's more like a lot of knowledge. Learning to spot artificial toning is like grading AU to Mint State coins. You need to see a lot of coins to develope "an eye,' unless you are one of those rare individuals who has a natural talent. One need only look at the volume of artificially toning coins that is selling to know that a lot of people have been and continue to be fooled, including, at times, some of the third party graders.

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