i have a 1931s error penny 1931s error penny

[Jimlisa1]

Does anyone know if a 1931s penny has ever been recorded with a error ?

[physics-fan3.14]

You are going to need to be quite a bit more specific: what kind of error? Errors are possible for any date, but without more information we can't really tell you if what you have is actually an error. 

And we will need to see pictures to really help you. 

[Conder101]

I'm sure they exist, and as a general rule they will be worth LESS than one without the error.

[WoodenJefferson]

There are 'no major' errors connected to the 1931-S cent, such as 'doubled dies' but a 'host' of other errors can and did occur to this specific date range. It's just that you need to be more specific so it can be pinned down, 

[Jimlisa1]

 

[physics-fan3.14]

What error are you seeing? 

I don't see any errors. 

[CoinClocks]

I see it!  It's SIDEWAYS! 

[Jimlisa1]

Thank you all for your replies. The major error is under the words "e pluribus unum". We just had a coin show here in Vegas and Anacs grading company was there. I showed them the penny and all of the different errors and they were taken back with shock at all the errors. They advised me to have graded which by the way I did.I submitted it at their advise. They also said that if this coin is a error, it would be the only 1931s ever recorded with any type of error. Im looking forward to hearing from any and all with any info on this penny. Jim

[Conder101]

You are going to have to provide better pictures (taken straight on not angled, preferably a close up of the error, taken out of the holder, and right side up please.)  Even enlarging your current image I can't see anything wrong with the coin.

[Jimlisa1]

 

[Jimlisa1]

Just now, Jimlisa1 said:

 

Hopefully these pictures will help.I only have a android phone for a camera 

[WoodenJefferson]

You got something there, yes sir! I'm going to let the error specialists tackle this one.

[Jimlisa1]

Thank Mr woodenjefferson for your time and support. I keep running into dead ends for information about this dang penny. Jim, btw,,Im calling it the "Lone Ranger"

[Conder101]

I have seen that doubled reverse before.  So far I can't find a reference to it but I am about positive it was a counterfeit.

[Jimlisa1]

Thank Condor101,at least your info is informative. Your input thus far is really all I have got on this penny. Ill know in a couple of weeks after it has been analyzed/graded by Anacs. Jim

[WoodenJefferson]

2 hours ago, Conder101 said:

I have seen that doubled reverse before.  So far I can't find a reference to it but I am about positive it was a counterfeit.

I linked this to Fred, he might know.

[drwstr123]

I hope Fred does comment.

My explanation is counterfeit.  An error in casting.

[WoodenJefferson]

4 hours ago, drwstr123 said:

I hope Fred does comment.

My explanation is counterfeit.  An error in casting.

I'm not sure Fred is even a member here as he is somehow connected to PCGS as an error specialist. If anything, I may have to transfer information if given any. We'll see what happens.

[Jimlisa1]

Thank you sir..Ill post the results the penny as soon as Anacs returns it to me graded.. Hopefully Im not grading a fake penny as you mentioned but if it is fake at least I can say that I tried. If not fake than I can say I found a error 1931s penny ! Jim

[physics-fan3.14]

There are no known Double Die Reverse varieties listed for 1931S. 

I'm fairly certain your coin is fake. 

[Jimlisa1]

Unfortunately your probably right..I will know soon if you and all the others are right. It seems that when something out of the ordinary appears most collectors/ enthusiets aren't prepared for something other than the voices of professionals. Im getting the whole picture. If it isn't listed or already been found than it's got to be fake. So far I've been offered quite a bit of money for this fake/forgery penny without having it graded. Maybe I should take the money .loll Jim

[Six Mile Rick]

At first the eye brows raise a bit!!!  But then the wiry letters from the first die stamp bring the eye brows down below level with suspicion.

Thanks for sharing this with us!!

Rick

[Jimlisa1]

Hi Mr Rick, Thank you for your input. I understand all the negativity that Im getting from this penny. I never knew that there was never a error for this year. My wife and I are new at penny collecting and enjoy it very much. Its only been a couple of years as collectors but we are hooked.. Jim

[Conder101]

16 hours ago, Jimlisa1 said:

Im getting the whole picture. If it isn't listed or already been found than it's got to be fake.

Something that hasn't been seen before isn't always a fake, but it has to be approached with a LOT of caution.  New things DO sometimes show up.  For 35 years it was firmly believed that no 1982 D small date copper cents were made because no one had ever seen one. Then last September one did.

But like I said I am pretty sure I have seen that rev die before, I just can't remember what it was on.  So I am extremely skeptical of your coin.

[Jimlisa1]

Thank you,Im going to put some obverse pictures of the "lone ranger ". Hopefully everyone can get a better feel for it being a real or rare penny.

[Jimlisa1]

Okay, heroes the front side view "obverse" of the "Lone Ranger"

[Jimlisa1]

Oops,I. Meant here is the front side,,lol 

[Jimlisa1]

Im still waiting for Anacs to send back the Lone Ranger..Stay tuned !

[RWB]

Based on the obverse and reverse photos, it's from false dies.

[Jimlisa1]

Thank you RWB for your input. Wouldn't there be many of these types of forgerys around ?