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To Slab, or Not to Slab

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JoeVeteran

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Newbie

here, wondering whether or not I should have the following coins slab?

Also, what would the average cost for slabbing a coin be?

Thank you, all comments/advise welcomed.

I had to change out the photos for a better view. Forgive me on having a blurry top, I just recently got a new camera, and am still learning. I will make attempts to correct these photos, for a better quality image. 589e57e56cbe4_1883SMorganSilverDollar.thumb.JPG.5ceaac34ce8cac03eaef331d7507f543.JPG589e57ee5757c_1883SMorganSilverDollarReverse.thumb.JPG.c59d52cba20047ee7f836eaa2a2a67ee.JPG589e57f5ea78e_1900MorganSilverDollar.thumb.JPG.499d5e3bd5d7165f6d15d399978f199f.JPG589e57fe939ab_1900OMorganSilverDollarReverseI.thumb.JPG.c9fb7c367228c0e41809e7730f1292b3.JPG589e58062ad35_1921MorganSilverDollarII.thumb.JPG.4a8a2d84ed2286683ecf976bbee7add7.JPG589e580e4c7de_1921MorganSilverDollarReversI.thumb.JPG.057163111e54d3e223d90ca45c1c77c9.JPG589e581487801_1989OMorganSilverDollar.thumb.JPG.83bc9b539b905ca33f59247e6484a4c3.JPG589e581aba525_1989OMorganSilverDollarReverse.thumb.JPG.a391ec0a23817582defdffb21f70643b.JPG

 

 

 

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WoodenJefferson

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Depending on the amount of 'chatter' not seen in the images, the 1898-O is a no brainer.

 

Note: For some reason since the migration, traffic has slowed to a crawl

 

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On 2/8/2017 at 11:26 PM, JoeVeteran said:

Hello WoodenJefferson, 

I went ahead and removed the old photos of the uploaded coins, and replaced them with better quality ones, to show the coin conditions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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david3142

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I wouldn't slab any of them. The cost is about $20/coin before shipping and insurance. The 1898-O does not look genuine to me. The mintmark is wrong. Yours looks like a zero. Look at CoinFacts images to compare. 

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Thank you  David3142,

 

I must say, I do not see exactly where my "O" is different from any other on "Coin-facts images. If this coin would be a fake, than a reputable "Coin Seller", would be taking a chance on losing a hell of a lot of customers, not to mention a good law suite for selling counterfeit coins, as genuine. 

I will email the coin dealer where I bought this coin, and bring up the possibility you mention. 

Meanwhile I would appreciate anyone else commenting on what David3142 is seeing with respect to the "O" on my 1898-O Morgan Silver Dollar? 

1989 O Morgan Silver Dollar Reverse (2).JPG

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I would be curious to know what's going on here as well. Maybe it is just the picture but the mintmark does not match others I have seen, including my own (I have two).  The mintmark should be roughly circular on the outside, similar to the O in DOLLAR. Perhaps there is more than one style? It is possible that it is a counterfeit, but either way, it is a common date and not worth slabbing. I don't think it would grade 65, which is what you would need to justify the expense. 

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David3142,

I just ran three different test on it, and the luster is correct (I have been told that counterfeiters have yet to mimic the luster of these mint coins), I also weighed it again to make sure, and it does weight in at 26.7 grams, I also did the melting ice test, and it did melt fairly quickly. So I did get 3/3 on testing the Morgan. 

Is there any other home test I could do in order to find out it's authenticity? 

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An added mintmark would pass all of those tests. Of course, both an 1898 and 1898-O are common so that wouldn't make any sense...  I've never heard of the melting test. What is that?  

Anyway, does the mintmark match that of the 1900-O you have?

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1 hour ago, david3142 said:

An added mintmark would pass all of those tests. Of course, both an 1898 and 1898-O are common so that wouldn't make any sense...  I've never heard of the melting test. What is that?  

Anyway, does the mintmark match that of the 1900-O you have?

I am not sure about added mint marks, but I have seen a couple variation of the New Orleans "O" mint marks when I google it's image. As for the melting test? Silver is known as the fastest ice cube melting metal, while others will melt slower, and Ice cube placed on silver will start to melt almost immediately before your very eyes. 

You are correct in that the "O" in my 1900 looks different than the "O" in my 1898, but I should add that my 1900 58a2a8582eb61_1989OMorganSilverDollarReverse(2).JPG.81fd77b65f72cfdc508e8ce61af8a7e5.JPG1894-o-vam-13-mint-mark-tilted-left.jpg.33cb0604dfed55c380dfbaf554240720.jpg87260_37658119_225.jpg.db2ac048e7a4d0c466d2dc92210b26ca.jpg58a2a86fa9ad5_FinalImages5CMorganMintMarkindetail.JPG.6a379b8b6b5c3453ece8d78aa78df4cc.JPG58a2a889b9f91_x1897-dollar-o-mintmark-2.jpg.pagespeed_ic._zylTfsC5n(1).jpg.15cbc97ed95420f10268964f4b251ad0.jpg58a2a8a80b542_MorganMintMarkindetail.JPG.c5833ceddfb786108a4fb8507f8e8fd7.JPG is more worn than my 1898 Morgan. 

I will keep looking, and let you know what I find, but so far everything points to genuine. I should also add that I am no expert, nor a novice when it comes to coins. 

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14 hours ago, James at OldeTowneCoinShoppe said:

I am replying, partly to test my new account!  For the cost of certification, I think it makes financial sense NOT to slab any of the Morgan dollars shown in the OP.

Thank you for your input James. I do appreciated it. 

 

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On 2/10/2017 at 5:07 PM, WoodenJefferson said:

Depending on the amount of 'chatter' not seen in the images, the 1898-O is a no brainer.

 

Note: For some reason since the migration, traffic has slowed to a crawl

 

The 1898-O looks like an MS64, at best to me. I don't think it merits the cost of grading.

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11 minutes ago, MarkFeld said:

The 1898-O looks like an MS64, at best to me. I don't think it merits the cost of grading.

Looking at the new images provided, you're probably right about it not achieving a MS-65 which would warrant the expense of grading...still though, it's an incredible strike for New Orleans minted Morgan so at min 64+

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13 hours ago, MarkFeld said:

The 1898-O looks like an MS64, at best to me. I don't think it merits the cost of grading.

Thank you for your input MarkFeld. I do appreciated it. 

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13 hours ago, WoodenJefferson said:

Looking at the new images provided, you're probably right about it not achieving a MS-65 which would warrant the expense of grading...still though, it's an incredible strike for New Orleans minted Morgan so at min 64+

Thank you for your input WoodenJefferson. I am considering taking it to the Orlando Money Show coming up in March. If not there is always a reputable coin store that I can go to. So basically I will not put the 1898-O in the back burner just yet.  I will eventually post my findings on here. 

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FYI- to Joe Veteran The reason I so quickly agreed to MarkFeld's post is he is an ex-NCG grader and now works for the esteemed company called Heritage. Mark knows coins rest assured and his advice is through knowledge and real world experience.

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29 minutes ago, WoodenJefferson said:

FYI- to Joe Veteran The reason I so quickly agreed to MarkFeld's post is he is an ex-NCG grader and now works for the esteemed company called Heritage. Mark knows coins rest assured and his advice is through knowledge and real world experience.

NGC. Just because they are building a new Board doesn't mean they want to change the name.....yet.:makepoint:

Rheumatoid Arthritis and canes and walkers are no excuse. The n is on the same row as the c, which is 3 spaces to the left of the n. The g is one row up and two spaces to the left of the n.  Please pin this to the top of the monitor. And drink more (coffee) before typing. 

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35 minutes ago, WoodenJefferson said:

FYI- to Joe Veteran The reason I so quickly agreed to MarkFeld's post is he is an ex-NCG grader and now works for the esteemed company called Heritage. Mark knows coins rest assured and his advice is through knowledge and real world experience.

Thank you WoodenJefferson, I really appreciate your help and advice.

 

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33 minutes ago, Mr.Mcknowitall said:

NGC. Just because they are building a new Board doesn't mean they want to change the name.....yet.:makepoint:

Rheumatoid Arthritis and canes and walkers are no excuse. The n is on the same row as the c, which is 3 spaces to the left of the n. The g is one row up and two spaces to the left of the n.  Please pin this to the top of the monitor. And drink more (coffee) before typing. 

...noted, but in 15 minutes or so it will be like I never read  this.

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