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Rarest Coin/Bill/Note/Token hiding from the world

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planman2014

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What do you think is the best numismatic treasure sitting in somebody's gun safe or safety deposit box?

 

 

I love to think that some coins were struck at the Carson City Mint late 1869 and that high up at the Mint has kept an 1869-cc Morgan in their family for 150 years.

 

 

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What do you think is the best numismatic treasure sitting in somebody's gun safe or safety deposit box?

 

I love to think that some coins were struck at the Carson City Mint late 1869 and that high up at the Mint has kept an 1869-cc Morgan in their family for 150 years.

 

Morgan? 1869?

 

I think the writer made a slip of the pen and meant Liberty Seated dollar.

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planman2014

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What do you think is the best numismatic treasure sitting in somebody's gun safe or safety deposit box?

 

I love to think that some coins were struck at the Carson City Mint late 1869 and that high up at the Mint has kept an 1869-cc Morgan in their family for 150 years.

 

Morgan? 1869?

 

I think the writer made a slip of the pen and meant Liberty Seated dollar.

 

Wow. Yes. An 1869-cc SEATED LIBERTY Dollar.

 

If it was a Morgan that would be even crazier though.

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Conder101

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1873-S seated dollar or no arrows half dollar. Maybe an 1870-S quarter. All of these are known to have been struck, and there is documentation of the existance at one time but they are unknown today.

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I would say an 1849 double eagle other than the one that is in the Smithsonian collection. It is claimed that such a coin existed in the 1890s, but it has not been seen since.

 

The second piece is the Templeton Reid 25 dollar California gold piece that was stolen from the U.S. Mint cabinet on August 16, 1858 according to The Red Book. It was never recovered. I dare say that the theif had that one melted and that it is now in coin heaven.

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Nutmeg Coin

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What super rarities have been "discovered" in the last 50 years? I like the case by case example basis of arguments, if there haven't been many stellar rarities discovered in a long time what are the odds of them showing up in the future? Where would an 1849 double eagle be hiding, in a federal safe somewhere?

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Where would an 1849 double eagle be hiding, in a federal safe somewhere?

 

According to Walter Breen (And PLEASE let's not go into another discussion about Breen's moral depravities. Most all of us know his history, and it is now a distraction.) a gold example was given to Treasury Secretary, William Meredith, by Mint Director, Robert M. Patterson. A coin dealer, Stephen Nagy, whom Breen describes as a protégé of better known coin dealer, J.W. Haseltine, was said to have had the piece in the 1890s. There is even supposed to be a photo of it, which shows that it was a Gem Proof example. The one in the Smithsonian collection has problems. People accuse Breen of making up stories, but I've read this elsewhere.

 

There was also supposed to have been one in gilt bronze that was claimed to be owned by a collector, R. Coulton Davis. He wrote about it in an issue of the

Coin Collector's Journal. It too has disappeared.

 

Where are these items? Did they really exist? It's been well over 100 years since any coin person has seen them. Maybe they might show up some day and be the coin event of the year.

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What super rarities have been "discovered" in the last 50 years? I like the case by case example basis of arguments, if there haven't been many stellar rarities discovered in a long time what are the odds of them showing up in the future? Where would an 1849 double eagle be hiding, in a federal safe somewhere?

 

The one "super rarity," of which I know, that has cropped up in the last 50 years is the 1870-S half dime. That coin was discovered in 1978 and caused quite a stir when it surfaced. It was previously unknown and to date it is unique.

 

There have been many others, but they were previously unknown die varieties that were most of interest to specialist collectors and dealers.

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What super rarities have been "discovered" in the last 50 years?

1870-S half dime, an 1870-S dollar, two 1873 CC no arrows quarters, an 1853-O no arrow and rays half dollar, the finest known 1793 strawberry leaf cents which hadn't been seen since the 1930's, the intact glass pattern 1942 cent, and like Bill said several other major rarity die varieties, and unlisted varieties. There are others I'm sure.

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What super rarities have been "discovered" in the last 50 years?

1870-S half dime, an 1870-S dollar, two 1873 CC no arrows quarters, an 1853-O no arrow and rays half dollar, the finest known 1793 strawberry leaf cents which hadn't been seen since the 1930's, the intact glass pattern 1942 cent, and like Bill said several other major rarity die varieties, and unlisted varieties. There are others I'm sure.

yes, thats just the start.
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RWB

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1907 pattern $10 gold - two different pieces.

1908 Indian $5 gold pattern - one documented, whereabouts now unknown.

1922 Medium relief Peace dollar. Proof and trial pieces.

1922 High relief Peace dollar, rev of 1921.

1921 Antiqued production strike.

1922 Medium relief antiqued trial production strike.

 

...others?

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Since the op did not originally state American, presumably there are some extremely valuable ancient or other world coins. Reminds me of when an American literature prof. asked a question on a test of examples of literature where conflicts get resolved by flight, and I referenced one of Gide's works.

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What super rarities have been "discovered" in the last 50 years?

 

How about the 1854-S quarter eagle, described as "a family heirloom" and certified by NGC shortly before the 2005 ANA Convention.

 

None recently discovered but I'm always on the lookout for a 1854-S half eagle to fill that hole in my coronet half eagle collection. I'd be happy with a 1875 Philadelphia also, not out of the realm of possibilities if I sold everything else I own.

 

Tom

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The 1792 silver center cent (in either copper or fusible alloy instead of with the silver center) that turned up a few years ago at the ANA show.

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