Another PCGS 1893-S to report.
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<<I took the coin to a professional coin collector in Clearwater Florida and they only offered me $6900>>

 

I don't consider myself a professional but I could tell it's counterfeit from an arms length and I have long arms.

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<<The seller on ebay is disclosing that this has a potential altered mintmark. Whats up with that?>>

 

 

Guess the seller is thinking it's altered but is still collectible, which it's not. I offered $25 to get it off the market and to use as a reference, maybe study it. Weight, dia. thickness, content, etc.

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I did not see the listing but was he saying it has a potential altered mint mark but PCGS still graded it?

 

I don't think that PCGS slab is even a real one either. Look at the fonts and missing symbol/letter comparing to the real one on heritage auction. So it's obviously that the seller copied the certification # on his/her fake PCGS slab.

 

Ebay

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Heritage Auction

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I did not see the listing but was he saying it has a potential altered mint mark but PCGS still graded it?

 

I don't think that PCGS slab is even a real one either. Look at the fonts and missing symbol/letter comparing to the real one on heritage auction. So it's obviously that the seller copied the certification # on his/her fake PCGS slab.

 

 

It's not a given that the seller did it. He might have knowingly or unknowingly purchased it that way.

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I did not see the listing but was he saying it has a potential altered mint mark but PCGS still graded it?

 

I don't think that PCGS slab is even a real one either. Look at the fonts and missing symbol/letter comparing to the real one on heritage auction. So it's obviously that the seller copied the certification # on his/her fake PCGS slab.

 

 

It's not a given that the seller did it. He might have knowingly or unknowingly purchased it that way.

I agree with Mark. If you read the sellers description, he talks about others looking at his coin and claiming a possible altered mintmark. The seller may have gotten shammed himself and doesn't know it.

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I did not see the listing but was he saying it has a potential altered mint mark but PCGS still graded it?

 

I don't think that PCGS slab is even a real one either. Look at the fonts and missing symbol/letter comparing to the real one on heritage auction. So it's obviously that the seller copied the certification # on his/her fake PCGS slab.

 

 

It's not a given that the seller did it. He might have knowingly or unknowingly purchased it that way.

 

 

Oh right, sorry. I mean its possible that the seller copied the certification number on that fake PCGS slab, or the previous owner did it. Thank you Mark, I didn't thinking twice before I said something.

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On the ebay slab (Fake) the few of differences I see,

are the coin and series number are in BOLD type

and there is no space between the :52 and :60

And the denomination is "$1" and should have the "S$1" for Silver.

But this is not true on the current holders as the S is now left off but on older holders the S is there.

Also but without the two pictures to compare, the bar code is all wrong

 

The HA coin does not have the bold type and does have the space between Series: 52 and Coin: 60, and a S for Silver and a correct bar code.

 

The reverse looks to be the same.

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To his credit, the seller ended the listing after I explained that the coin was a counterfeit and sent him a link to this thread.

 

I am of the belief that he thought he had a genuine coin and that some unknowledgeable people had been willing to pay real money for it.

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Wow! This guy actually has negative eBay feedback. He has a 0 feedback rating but if you look in his feedback profile, he has one feedback in the past 12 months...and it's negative! It says, "Seller felt Paypal was not a safe payment after I payed and refunded the money"

 

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