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  1. There’s only 10 dates / years of issue for the Netherlands 10G coin during the 41-year reign of Willem III. All of these years occurred in a 15-year period from 1875 to 1889. Because of this, he only had one official portrait during this time and all the coins have the same obverse. Because even the date is on the reverse there is absolutely no way to discriminate one issue in the series from any of the others by just looking at the design of the obverse. By contrast, his daughter, ruled for 58 years (longer, but he was still on the throne 4 decades), and Gherrmann44’s 10G set honoring her has, I think, four official portraits on the obverse. The reverse of the coin is a different story. The 10 issues use a total of three different reverse “designs” for lack of a better word - or so I thought. It’s really two different designs and one of those designs has two variants with different privies… but I’m getting ahead of myself. The 1875 - the first and by far the most common with a mintage (4,110,00) that exceeds that of all the rest of the series combined (3,719,657) - is a 1-year type coin (KM 105). In 1876 several design features were re-arranged, and the date moved from the top to the bottom of the design. All the coins made from 1876 to 1889 are the same type (KM 106) and are the same except for one small detail: one of the two small marks on either side of the year is different in the last issues of the series. The issues from 1876 to 1887 have a battleax to the left of the date. The 1888 and the 1889 have a halberd. I have wondered, literally for years, what these marks were and why that one changed at this point. It never occurred to me that these were the mint mark and privy mark. I’m not gonna lie; this makes me feel a bit dumb. How did I figure this out? By reading the coin descriptions on Coin928’s “Curacao 1900-1948, Complete Circulations Issues” set. On more than one coin in that set he explains that the fish on those coins, next to the date, in the same position as the battleax and halberd are on the 10Gs, is a privy mark. The symbol on other side of the date is the mintmark for the Royal Dutch Mint - it’s a “Staff of Mercury.” He was nice enough to give me a link to the site where he found this information. The battleax is the privy for Philip Hendrik Taddel, who served as Mint Master from Nov 1874 to May 1887. The halberd (hellebaard) was the symbol for Hugo Laurens Adriaan van den Wall Bake (Good grief! What a name!), who served from July 1887 to 1909. Thanks to Coin928 for the new resource (website) and the information.
  2. Whenever I get a new coin for a set, provided it’s a smaller set that doesn’t require pulling out 20+ coins, it’s always fun to pull out all the coins in the set and look at them together. It can be a lot of fun with the larger sets too but it can also be a lot of work to find them all amongst the other coins, get them out and, eventually, put them all back. When I get the new coin in for such a set I try to get new pictures done and this usually leads to new pictures being taken for the whole set. Even if the pictures themselves aren’t the best in the world I think it makes the presentation overall a little more appealing if the pictures are at least done consistently with each other. The quality of the photos is something I’m still working on in this regard. I’m not bad as a portrait photographer and have been paid to shoot tradeshow images for oil field services companies and symposia photos for universities. I have a really nice micro lens that I’ve used to take great shots of small figures in a light box. Coin photography is something I still struggle with. The reflective surface and the while holder with NGC just makes things hard. Looking at the group of coins together, it’s pretty easy to see that I’ve been favoring older holders – old “fatty” holders in particular - with this set. I had been doing it mostly to make the set a little more visually consistent across all the coins in it – not always easy given how much the NGC slab in particular has changed over the years. I've also at time really liked the idea of building the set mostly with coins with 9-digit serial numbers mostly starting with 195 or 196. I had to give up on that a little bit when this 1888 came up for sale. Beggars can't be choosers in such cases. I was just thrilled to see a high grade 1888 at all and there's no way for me to even know if there is an 1888 out there in an old fatty holder still (if there ever was). One of these years, when the set is complete, I’m hoping I can send them all in for re-holdering. It would be great to get them all into the same type/generation of slab, with the same label design, with the same invoice number and numbered chronologically from -001 to -010 (or -011 if I actually ever manage to find an 1877/9). I think that would be the ultimate way to show off the set visually. It might even be fun to have a custom label made for them at that point. Given a long background in art and photography, presentation is and probably always will be important to me I think and when getting the coins graded the slabs themselves inevitably become part of the discussion of presentation. Since I have tomorrow off for president's day I'm probably going to take some time and try for new pictures of these things. I guess we'll see how the pictures come out. Maybe it's me, and maybe it's just the visual effect of having less white and more space around the coin, but when I saw the 1888 in the new holder it almost made it look bigger than the others.
  3. Well, when I made the last entry I was really leaning towards the MS66. By the time I went to bed on Saturday I had pretty much convinced myself that the MS66 was the way to go and that I should bid aggressively to make sure I got that coin. So then why am I writing this, saying that I bid on and won the MS65 tonight and why am I so stinkin’ happy about it that my wife is snickering about it at my expense? Well, my basis for thinking that the MS66 was the way to go was thinking it looked better in the pictures. But that’s in the pictures. The person that took photos of the MS66 seems to have known what they were doing. The lighting and everything else about the pictures of the MS65 is comparatively lousy, and I think the coin probably looks just fine in person. That undermined the rationale for going with the MS66 for me. Sunday night I was running some back-ups of personal files and cleaning up some old things that I don’t want or need to keep anymore. In the course of this I found my last “family photo” of the 6 coins I had, including the three in the old fatty holders (the 1876, 1879, and 1887). This really got me thinking again about how that MS65 would fit with the rest of my existing set. This also got me thinking again about the fact that some of the serial numbers were the same out to three digits and it got me wondering just how similar they were, so I pulled them out and looked. The serial numbers for the coins in the fatties are: 1876: 195949-XXX 1877: 195945-XXX 1879: 195974-XXX 1887: 196363-XXX … And there you have it. That coin’s invoice number had 5 digits in common with my 1876 and 4 digits in common with my 1879. There’s only a difference of 4 between two of the invoice #s and a span of less than 30 for all three of them. There’s a very good chance to my mind that the 1876 and 1877 were at NGC together getting graded at the same time, and maybe the 1879 too, maybe 15 or 20 years ago (I don’t know exactly when that holder and those numbers were in use – maybe others would know better?). I may never know what that story is, but I have to think there’s a story there and a shared history. That’s something I just can’t pass up. I just love the thought of that and the possibilities. I told my wife about this. She just laughed and said, “you are such a coin collector.” The MS66, in a current gen holder, was probably graded in the last 6-12 months, and it just isn't part of that same story. In the context of the set, that’s worth a lot. Initially I’d been thinking that the MS65 should go for less than $300, but I could see chasing it up to $325. After I saw all of this and got thinking about it, I fell in love with the idea that I decided I was willing to pay up to $350 just to get to bring the three coins, bought at different times, I think from 3 different merchants, back together. It turns out my prior research and watching of the market was about right in the first place I won the coin at $290.
  4. hello all, anybody have old netherlands coins in ngc slab ms score. 1 Gulden, 2.5 Gulden, 3 Gulden. prefer willem I willem II willem III , wilhelmina (rare ones) can offer me. Thank you Hendri Leong.