Treeman

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  1. Thanks for the info. I am just wanting to let them go, and get up some cash as quickly as possible. Retired now, and decided it would be more fun to get some upgrades on my truck. Hoping to get an idea of what they are worth, and the insight provided by you guys will help a lot. Thanks to everyone.
  2. Thinking of selling my late date Large Cents, and I was wondering approximate percentage of price list values I should expect from a dealer. They are all MS65 to MS66.....
  3. I’ve been an active collector for over 40 years. I started with an undefined goal, getting any “old” coin I could afford. Eventually, I focused on US types, excluding gold. I tried to focus on VF to XF condition, to keep expenditures reasonable. Over time I found myself gravitating to US Large Cents. I built a very nice (not complete) set of early, middle, and late date cents. Eventually, I sold the types and the circulated cents, and focused on mint state late dates. Being on a fixed (retired) income, I will probably never finish my late date cent set. However, I feel somehow connected to the very first US collectors, who began collecting when the big coppers were replaced with the Flying Eagle cent. I think, over time, I have come “full circle” and found the roots of US collecting.
  4. "There should be a difference between a 69 and 70" Exactly, THERE SHOULD BE! In most cases there is no difference. One service puts out quite a number of "70's", which is probably accurate with the grading standards and modern production, the other service keeps the number of "70's" lower, simply to keep up a false impression of tighter standards. If you look at enough of these, you will conclude that, for the most part, there is actually no difference in "69" or "70" graded coins. The arrogant people will say that you don't have enough experience to tell the difference, and that is just arrogance. Anyone who has collected for years should admit that the whole 69-70 thing is hype.
  5. I sent an email with copies of my set, and set cert numbers. I think it is not recognizing anything with a Newcomb number, or sm/lg date.
  6. They are Large Cents that are listed, however, it is the ones that have a variety or die number on the holder. They used to put an asterisk, denoting value of "parent coin", or something similar.
  7. Why do some of my coins show no value on the Registry?
  8. As has been stated a number of times in this thread.. Why would I cross a PCGS coin to NGC, when it's worth more in the PCGS slab? Why? Maybe because you are a collector, rather than an investor? Maybe because you collect coins, and not plastic? Maybe because, like everyone else, you say, "buy the coin, not the holder"? Maybe you just like all your slabs to be of the same type? Maybe because you have a strong dislike for the arrogant "PCGS or nothing" attitude that has existed from day one ATS? In any event, NGC finally had to take the same step to, hopefully, resolve the value disparity, which is almost surely the result of the PCGS only registry. They did what they had to do, and all the complaining and sour grapes won't change anything. If you decide to join the Kool Aide crowd ATS, do it. I doubt if threatening to do it will change anything. Perhaps we should forget the old advice, "buy the coin, not the plastic", and use a new one, " collect the coins, not the registries", after all, many of us were collecting coins before the registries, or grading companies, existed.
  9. Simply put... NGC certification was "classy", adding the BS marketing is "trashy". Doesn't matter my personal opinion of these labels, there is still a distinct line that separates classy from trashy. Kind of like turning a Rolls Royce into a chromed out low rider. Some would like it, but it still ain't classy...
  10. Vegetable oil works better, and is probably safer. Just put a bit of salad oil on a paper towel, moisten the area, wait a few minutes and wipe the residue away.
  11. +1 for guns, especially the old ones, wood and steel...
  12. Even if you have no problem with the result in this case (which I kind of do have a problem), can you explain how anyone could put any trust in the paid for opinion of a grading and authentication service, if there always exist a loophole if they are wrong? I could start a service, take peoples money, and give an "expert" opinion that may, or may not, be correct. Just seems like a rather worthless guarantee. Again, just my opinion, but it seems they expect the average collector to already be sure of the grade, authenticity, and category of the coin. Should be "obvious", so why do they exist?
  13. It seems OBVIOUS that they expect the average person to know more about coins and grading than they do. If a company wants to give themselves kudos for grading the most, grading the best, ect, they ought to be accurate. If I took my vehicle to a shop for an oil change, and the engine seized a few miles down the road, could they claim "the engine OBVIOUSLY had no oil, so it's not our fault, you should have noticed." The above is an easy out for all the mistakes. You would think that a company with "Professional" in it's name, might try to be a bit more professional. Why get the "guarantee" of a coin's authenticity and grade, if you have to determine rather it's accurate, or an "obvious" error, by yourself? Maybe I'm just becoming jaded after 40 years of collecting, not to mention, I haven't really liked Kool Aide since I was a kid.....
  14. I think one of the attractions to PCGS coins was simply the ability to list the coins on both registries. This could be a big boost for NGC, possibly the right move, whether we agree or not. Kind of hard to match your adversary when you invite them into your camp. A lot of posters are mentioning going over to the other side because NGC has abandoned the collector. Odd thing is, PCGS has done this from the beginning, so, in a logical sense, they did not abandon the collector, just never cared about them in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I'm not totally loyal to NGC, and, if I need slabs for coins with "Questionable" toning, I will certainly continue to use PCGS.
  15. "I don't believe NGC will even notice but it makes me feel better that I'm not forced into one narrow requirement" You could just move your sets over to the PCGS Registry, they have forced the "one narrow requirement" from day one....
  16. I wonder if the "PCGS Premium" will continue to exist. Most (if not all) of the premium is due to the fact that you had no choice if you wanted your coins in the PCGS Registry. Now, with NGC doing the same, you will have no choice if you want your coins on the NGC Registry. Just a thought, but I really believe the premium only exist because of the PCGS exclusive registry.
  17. There is some difference between knowing something is true, and admitting something is true. I stand corrected. I should have said, "from what I can see in the photo, there are many coins in "70" slabs, from both services, that are not as nice as the posted coin.
  18. There are many coins in "70" slabs, from both services, that are not as nice as the posted coin. That is why collectors are usually much better off getting the "69". The registries are the only reason for anyone paying multiples for the elusive "70" on the slab. In most cases, there exists no recognizable difference, and, in some cases, the "69" is obviously nicer than some "70" coins. I know I'll get slammed for this post, but everyone knows it's true....
  19. PCGS has slabbed a number of these "unintentionally" toned ASE's....
  20. Me thinks you may want to try the "NGC Registry" forum, listed just below the forum you are on...
  21. It does lie with the collectors. They would rather trust, and chase, a piece of plastic with a number, than actually learn about the coin. Hence my statement, "Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when people collected the actual coins... "
  22. Long thread, but I learned a lot! Buy the plastic, not the coin. "There are two sides to every coin" is just an expression that doesn't hold up in grading... Grading is just an opinion, so, when they get it really wrong, they are excused. Modern common coins are worth more than rarities, as long as someone sticks a high number on a plastic slab. The number does not even need to reflect reality. Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when people collected the actual coins...
  23. Seems that the 1839 N-8 is very hard to find for sale anywhere on the net in 65 or better. Is this simply due to the registry? I thought I remembered the Booby Head as being the "hot" one for 1839, excluding the overdate of course...