TwoKopeiki

That was fast!

One correction to what was done - the 1789/8MO FM CAROLUS III should be a separate slot in the https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive/mexico/mexico/1950/ set. Looks like the existing 1789MO FM CAROLUS III slot was modified to include the 1789/8MO FM instead, which is incorrect.

Thank you.

Hello. Just had some new varieties graded. Can you please add the following slots:

1. Set: https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive/mexico/mexico/1950/definition/

Coin: 1789/8 MO FM CAROLUS III (https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2913082-004/NGCDetails/)

2. Set: https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive/mexico/mexico/1951/definition/

Coin 1: 1799/8MO FM (https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2913082-006/NGCDetails/)

Coin 2: 1800/700MO FM (https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2913082-007/NGCDetails/)

Coin 3: 1806/5MO TH (https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2913082-009/NGCDetails/)

Additionally, in that last set, please remove the incorrectly listed 1800/70MO FM slot as the correct variety is the one listed above as coin #2 (1800/700MO FM)

Thank you.

Roman 

The coin is a counterfeit. Design elements and legend punches and spacing is wrong. Weighing "27 grams on the nose" is an interesting tidbit. Do you know how to perform specific gravity testing? What is the diameter and thickness? Given that your obverse and reverse picture quality is not great, i think it's too much to ask for edge photos all the way around?

Amazing - thank you! I'll get a few of my other varieties packaged-up for shipping.

That's an odd decision. What makes this variety different from the other over-assayer in the set already? Is it possible to speak with a Senior World grader about this? I'm trying hard to find reasons to engage with the NGC registry again, but you folks are not making it easy for someone in my area of specialization.

Any update on this request?

Thank you.

Thanks Ali E. Is there a list published somewhere of experts that are consulted? I remember providing feedback on the composition of the original Mexico portrait sets around 2008 when they were being built out, but have not been very active at NGC since. There are a handful of specialists in this area and would be great to know who is being consulted. For example, the reference I cited by Brad Yonaka is the most up-to-date view of all the varieties for the Mexico portrait series. Is Brad on the expert panel for NGC?

Hi. I recently certified a new (to NGC) variety of Mexico 8 Reales and would like it added to this complete varieties set: https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive/mexico/mexico/1954/ 

This variety is well known to specialized collectors and has been documented in Brad Yonaka's recent book : "A Variety Guide to the silver and copper coinage of the mexico city mint 1772-1821" alongside with the varieties already present in the set.

Here's the coin in question: https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/5846756-005/58/

Please let me know what steps I need to take to have this added, as the online "request to add a slot" resulted in this coin being added in a non-variety 1815 8 Reales slot.

Thank you,

Roman.

Congrats to all who pushed to get the PCGS coins back into US competitive sets. Too bad world sets are still not allowing PCGS coins.

Thought I was coming back, but with this change not applying to World Coin Sets - no reason to do so. Too bad.

Most definitely a counterfeit. Design elements (portrait, reverse shield, legend) are not even close to the regal king punches used in Mexico. Might be a contemporary forgery, which would still have value to collectors.

12 hours ago, Abuelo's Collection said:

Very nice @TwoKopeiki, the 1800 is particularly sweet!

Thanks @Abuelo's Collection. I was very happy to add it to the collection. That 1800 is my favorite out of the recent additions.

When this happened to World Coins in 2012, I moved my entire collection to PCGS and haven't looked back since.

 

What was the motivation for doing so? Was your collection a greater percentage of PCGS coins, or was it an economic based decision because of perceived increased value in the market, or just a protest against change, in that a free stuff registry model disappeared, i.e. a competitor decided to not support another competitor? Does PCGS allow NGC in their world coin registry?

I had about 50% of my collection in PCGS plastic at the time of the announcement and had to make a decision whether I would stay with NGC or move to PCGS. The reason I decided to go with PCGS is due to being a big believer in customer experience as a differentiator between service providers. The way NGC approached the move and the overall lack of communication / acknowledgement of the additional pains their existing customers had to go through with regards to their collection choices (and associated financial impact) made me feel like NGC didn't really care about what I thought or felt as a consumer of their services. It was an unpleasant experience, especially since I spent my own time and helped initially craft a number of Colonial Mexico registry sets.

Having said that, NGC should run some $5 cross-over specials to help reduce the cost of aligning to their NGC-only Registry vision for those who want to stay.

When this happened to World Coins in 2012, I moved my entire collection to PCGS and haven't looked back since.

Nice additions, Brandon. I really like the look of the Hall Mint commem.

Another addition to my Mexico 8 Reales set - 1817 in PCGS AU55

Beautiful toning on that jeton!

Here's another new purchase from Craig Keplinger - 1794 Mexico 8 Reales. AU with a neat strike-through.

Nice one, nunfa0!

Here's a new one - Mexico 1812 JJ. Used to be in an NGC AU58, now in PCGS AU58:

Two sets of images: to show the surfaces and luster.

Incredible toning on that 8 Reales, 2K!

Thanks! I love it

Roman...incredible coin! I look forward to seeing and hearing more about your collection.

You can see most of my collection here at NGC by clicking either this link or the banner in my signature.

If you're interested in learning about a particular coin in the set - let me know.

Cheers,

Roman.

Welcome to the forum, John. I share your passion for 8 Reales and primarily focus on Mexico Mint from 1772 to the War of Independence and various provisional mints that appeared in Mexico during the War. Check out my signature set for some toned beauties

If you ever have any questions or want to talk about the "pieces of eight" - drop me a PM on the forums.

Here's a teaser:

1816 Mexico City 8 Reales

Cheers,

Roman.

Nice additions to the collection, brg5658.

I use a highly diffused OTT light and tilt the coin into it slightly to bounce the light off the surface and capture the color.