DuncanWylieWilson

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  1. Believe it or not, but I’m using a generic X1600 Chinese digital magnifier. Come in all shapes and sizes, but all much alike! If you’re in the UK it will cost you £14.99 and if you’re in the US it will cost you close to £20. UK Digital Magnifier: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333695349188 US Digital Magnifier: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1600X-Digital-Zoom-Microscope-USB-Handheld-Desktop-Magnifier-8-LED-with-Stand-Y/353160835649?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item523a06b241:g:-WIAAOSwnelfV3Lk This digital magnifier has eight built-in LED lights to illuminate the surface for easy of analysis. Intensity of the light can be easily changed via a wheel on the cable. You download a very simple software following the instructions provided in the box and it enables you to record and take HD pictures of your magnifications. Fantastic tool at a fantastic price.
  2. It is always good to be prepared. Just a shame it isn't always possible. Once question I haven't asked is just how much detail can counterfeit strikes replicate? I have a digital magnifier and when comparing the fine details of my 1913 Indian Head half eagle to NGC-photographed examples, the details are absolutely and unequivocal 1:1! Also, I have read that common counterfeits of the 1913 Indian Head half eagle show tool marks around the 3 in the date 1913, but it doesn't always seem possible to distinguish a light tool mark from a mark obtained through circulation and wear and tear. For those of you who are interested, I have attached two highly magnified pictures of two important part of my 1913 Indian Head half eagle. The 'zigzag' details in the Indian head dress are absolutely identical to well-photographed examples online.
  3. Ah, so you go in well armed and well informed! If only our politicians would do the same! I’ve got my eye on a 1911-S Indian Head half eagle online. It’s in the UK. Most of these coins are, unsurprisingly, in the United States. Again, it’s a raw coin, but the photos are good and it’s looking great!
  4. I assume you were pretty confident that they were authentic! There’s also a level of trust instilled in the vendor, though some may consider that blissful naivety! 😂
  5. The only foolproof way is having them slabbed, but I’m still not too keen on that. I like taking my lovely coins out every so often to compare and contrast with other coins and quality reference books. There are just so many really high quality counterfeits out there that it can be a bit unnerving - all part of the game I suppose! Having them authenticated as originals but not graded would just be for myself. I have no intention of ever selling my beloved Indians!
  6. Speaking of slabs, where could I go to have my Indian Head coins authenticated as contemporary originals without having them slabbed? I’m more interested in having them confirmed as 100% authentic originals than I am in their relative grades. They’re all in lovely condition. Regardless of whether they are VF or MS, they are all very much enjoyable to me. They are all the correct weights, dimensions and all of the details are there, but I would like a professional opinion too. I have bought two from very reputable dealers, but I would like to have them checked out for myself. Any ideas where I could have this done without having to have them entombed in plastic slabs?
  7. Yes, that’s correct. That’s the little depression we are looking at. It’s often on some ‘quality’ gold reproductions, i.e. counterfeits made to a good enough standard to fool even those with a little experience.
  8. Haha! Yes, the AU 60 grade! In fairness, it’s a really pretty coin, and because it hasn’t been graded and slabbed a more reasonable and accurate number can’t legitimately be placed on it. Once my 1914-D Indian Head quarter eagle arrived I shall send all four coins off to NGC and let you know how I get on. Should the 1914 Indian Head quarter eagle come back as a counterfeit then j shall return it to the seller with her lifetime guarantee! I meant to ask this here, but I’ll put it in my response to you given that we are talking about ungraded coins: Have you ever bought an ungraded Indian Head half or quarter eagle? I know that some people try to stay away from ungraded coins for obvious reasons, but there are also those who won’t have coins graded as they don’t like them being ‘entombed’ in an NCG slab or otherwise.
  9. I can appreciate that. I’m one of these peculiar beasts who only collects Indian Head half and quarter eagles. Very well might move into other areas in the future, but I’m so drawn in by Pratt’s efforts here and the imagery surrounding it. Im actually waiting on a book on them that’s had some very positive feedback - The Golden Indians of Bela Lyon Pratt: https://coinweek.com/education/numismatic-books/first-read/first-read-gold-indians-bela-lyon-pratt-allan-schein/ I hear that it’s not only a fantastic reference source for these beautiful coins, but that it’s also interesting reading on raw American history. Plenty of quality images too!
  10. I’d swap with you in a heartbeat, sir! I love my country, but my lust for American is a calling! Any thoughts on these Indian heads here, VKurtB? All knowledge is good knowledge! 🇬🇧 ♾ 🇺🇸
  11. Gentlemen, I have an interesting point to raise within this discussion. I fully acknowledge that the small depression marginally above and to the left of the 4 in the 1914 date on the Indian Head quarter eagle can be a common cause for concern. It is one of the first giveaways of a counterfeit. That being said, does this mean that all 1914 Indian Head quarter eagles with this identical mark are counterfeits? The reason I am asking this is that a 1914 Indian Head quarter eagle graded at MS65 by PCGS sold on Heritage Auctions for $37,375 and it exhibits this identical mark. My 1914 Indian Head quarter eagle very clearly has this identical depression. I would like to think that a coin like this graded by PCGS and sold via Heritage Auctions was absolutely and unequivocally authentic - especially for what the buyer paid! Please see the link to the Heritage Auction listing: https://coins.ha.com/itm/indian-quarter-eagles/1914-2-1-2-ms65-pcgs/a/1114-1913.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115
  12. I would also like to add that I am a collector based in the UK, so local authentication services with specialities pertaining to Indian Head half and quarter eagles are few and far between! Not to worry, I’ll be in the good old USA soon enough! I should also note that for the purposes of making this forum beneficial to fellow collectors and new comers, I will give an update on the results of my NGC submission. I’m still waiting on a 1914-D Indian Head quarter eagle, so I shall wait for it to arrive before I submit all four of them for authentication and grading.
  13. Hello and thank you for your input! Absolutely agree with you here. Apologies if I was a little unclear in the post, however. I picked the three up for a little under $1000, but all from different sellers. The 1914 Indian Head quarter eagle was purchased from a collector and seller called Rona Cox. She is a member of the Royal Numismatic Society and has her own website: www.historycoins.co.uk Furthermore, Rona Cox has a published book called ‘History Through Coin’ and is a fellow of the Royal Numismatic Society. All of her coins come with a lifetime warranty of authenticity, meaning I can get a full refund if I can prove that the 1914 Indian Head quarter eagle I bought from her is a counterfeit. I was rather confident when buying this coin from her as she had acquired it from Dix Noonan Webb where it had been informally graded at “around mint state.” Did Noonan Webb are world coin specialists. All of this being said, however, I accept that the depression above the four in the date on the 1914 Indian Head quarter eagle can cause alarm. I know that the weights and sizes are absolutely spot on, but I suppose this could be replicated provided the same materials were used in the same ratios (Au:Cu/90:10) in the counterfeits. Just a thought. Looking forward to additional input. Thank you!
  14. Gentlemen, thank you both for your input. It is common knowledge amongst collectors and enthusiasts that the Indian head series (be that quarter or half eagle) has been plagued with quality counterfeits for many years. It's an absolute nightmare and a crying shame. Alas, where there is money to be made, people make it - honestly and otherwise! Hoping a member far more knowledgable than I can infer the authenticity from what photos I have provided. I haven't ruled out sending them all in to NGC for grading.
  15. Thank you for the input, RWB. Yes, I’ve heard this line of thought in addition to public concern around the accumulation of germs in the incuse design of the coin were key to the Indian Head’s demise. Like many pre-1933 gold coins, the National gold recall must also be considered here. Do you have any Indian Head coins yourself? Be them quarter or half eagles! Cheers!