First nothing i have said was a lie. This person is a coin dealer in the city i live in and he is the one who made the purchase. I thought this was a professional forum, however it seem to me it is a bunch of punks and clowns. I may not have the experience to know everything but i do have the knowledge to research my own coins. I wanted to give NGC a try but apparently I misunderstood. This isn't NGC grading and coin help, it is just a bunch of middle age men having some power trip that give the good guys bad names. Second rate grading company anyways, what was i even thinking. I should have known there would be squatters here. Sorry this does not go for the one's that are nice and polite on here. This is for the throw it in the trash guys, drill a hole in it guy's, give it to VDirt for analysis guys. So VDirt what exactly are saying and have the nerve to call me a liar about. You don't know me and i don't know you, however you be more polite and a man next time and just as per item and I'd be more than happy to send a photo with your name and a finger in the air if you're going to be arrogant. Polite remarks get polite answers.