Sure they are some of the best. You dont hold the coin in your hand; look at details by eye and by microscope. I appreciate your honesty. However, without seeing the coin yourself and how each part of the doubling is the same height. You are unable to see full potential of coin. Perhaps it is MD. Does that make it less doubled? Especially when all parts are equally as high as the counter? MD is still doubling. Do you disagre with that statement? If I send this coin to be graded and they say ddo and ddr, then what? Will you still disagree; or will you and others submit? If no ddo or ddr existed today, then please tell me how it still does. That isnt according to me, but experts. So, would you please tell me?