Jason Abshier

Ahhh the good ol’ MS70 coin brightener trick ? Just kidding around … I do agree and stand corrected there is much more depth to conservation services offered by TPG at PCGS and NGC and the solutions that they use…

Very nice coin to find in a Penny roll , don’t get better than that , it’s in good condition for its age as well !

Conservation service all they do is dip in a solution to remove toning and hazing . Really no need pay for that service you can dip your own coins … if it had some gunk or some some stuff on it you can soak it in acetone … grading companies act like it’s a secret lab basically all same chemicals and stuff dealers and collectors been using for year to restore coins and remove ugly toning and by NOT cleaning them which is when a coin is full of hairlines and rubbing marks there’s a very fine line between what’s acceptable such as dipping coins (is not considered “cleaned”) VS a coin that was rubbed with a rag or paper towel leaving hair marks all over it … not all of us agree on what is cleaning and Not cleaning on the forums here … I accept dipping for certain coins with ugly splotchy brownish toning or ugly album toning and artificial toning needs removed I don’t consider that cleaning

It definitely one of nicest blue toned coins I’ve seen definitely a cool specimen

@powermad5000 I’m sure coin shows are now the new hangout spots for criminals to steal coins off collectors or dealers when they leave show at the end of the event …. Everyone becoming more and more aware of this situation involving thieves and criminals …. My Grandfather used collect guns he went gun shows from time to time he knew dealers and they knew him well … one day a couple moved in next door to my grandfather he knew they were drug addicts (he believes they were the one that stole from him but there was no proof) …. He had go on vacation when he came home someone broke into his house stole a bunch of his guns not all of them but they mostly went after handguns however they moved 1 week after that incident … he never did find any of his guns back , he kept collecting bought a better gun safe (vault) as well back then gun safes weren’t popular in 70’s and 80’s most people kept their guns in wooden display cases with glass …

Business doing business a favor is what I call it … The average Joe collectors like us sending in coins to have them graded by NGC/PCGS we are peanuts compared to bigger dealers who what really keep NGC/PCGS in business sending in bulk submissions market grading was dirty scam that was created and driven by dealers to profit money , in theory I say TPG has went off the rails with market grading does it really do good ? In a dealer’s standpoint his main goal when sending coins in is to get highway grade he can possibly get for profit… For us collectors ? We get a huge dent in our wallets trying to obtain these higher end coins , if we were to crack one out and send them in ourselves I guarantee you we will get grade point lower most of the time

That’s actually a good question with some mixed answers … demands are what drive the price of coin up , is what really makes a coin become known as “rare” on buyers market, rare to you might mean it was hard for you obtain for your personal collection …. A lot world coins have low low mintages compared to a lot US coinage why does US coins have such high prices ? They are driven by supply and demand most are not even rarities they were mass produce in the mints … As in niches of the world coin collecting crowd there’s a lot coins that are below 200-500 mintage mark they just don’t have fanfare to make them rare by demands but rare for someone’s personal collection… your coin you showed it had mintage of 2,000+ it’s not really considered rare in my terms quiet common in fact

As a long time collector myself … I wouldn’t send that coin in grading … it nice to you I would put in 2x2 Mylar and put in folder book or something … you can actually buy those anywhere 1957 wasn’t a special year either , it would cost you a lot money just to have it graded by NGC in the end it’s just not worth it money and value wise …. How ever you can buy one that was already graded that a coin dealer sent in for bulk submission grading at discounted prices on their end … for average collectors like myself and other on here ? The cost would be to high to send something like that in for grading

Germany Third Reich …1940-A 5 pfennig “Reichskreditkassen” military occupation money iron or zinc always turns dark color !! This one looks like it been coated in light dap mineral oil to keep it from rusting

Stacks bowser sold one back in 2015 coin in this caliber ? No doubt there are fakes being made

PCGS grades world coins as well so does ANACS and ICG … I have more PCGS German coins and medals than I do NGC but NGC does have more of data base for wide wide range of world coins and ancients … PCGS won’t grade ancients that I know of due to true authenticity behind ancients

They probably want paperwork to back it up , a lot Chinese fakes floating around if they feel it’s suspicious or looks off they will question authenticity of the coin meaning they are unsure or they are sure this is not Real ! You can thanks Chinese for all fakery stuff they do to our hobby on daily basic … NGC /PCGS does do a pretty good job at nailing down fake coins … not saying your coin is fake , but they want some paperwork. Backing it up proving this is indeed a pattern coin you claim it to be … I’m sure someone else will chime in on this matter

I seldomly buy coins on eBay any more , do most of my buying and bidding through auction houses … I do occasionally bid on coins from time to time I might win 2-3 coins from eBay for whole year … I’ve purchased other stuff like numismatic books and so on never had a problem with shipping it’s linked to PayPal account , I’ve won two John S. Davenport German taler catalog books for my numismatic book collection both of them just came in the mail today no problems … thanks for heads up I’ll keep an eye on my future orders on eBay

Some I agree with what you’re saying … I’m all for helping new people, only if they are willing to meet me half way and take in good advice about hobby … on daily basic we have people popping up with so called “error” coins they believe are errors because YouTube video told them so … why would they all sudden pop up on NGC chat forums ? I believe some older member on here have grown tired and grumpy of daily stuff that goes on in these forums …. You’re correct we can do better for some on here , I treat every new person on here with a welcome and little advice about coin or subject they are asking about …. However it usually turns out to be you can’t tell them anything they have their mind setup they are sending the coin in for grading or such …. However few newbies have posted some interesting finds like the other day like the Close “AM” Lincoln cent variety that a newbie found I would say who been listening to good advice on here did any of the other Newbies chime in to learn ? Not really ! So I can see why some on here are grumpy sometimes when some new folks just don’t want sit down and be patience , learn and listen to what long time contributors are saying on here

All my dream would come true if that were to happen … I highly doubt we would ever achieve that , internet has ruined to hobby with misinformation to its rotten core ! I’m surprised some long members on here stick around to this day to constantly tell people they have parking lot coin …. I would like hear from grading company as well how many fools actually send in parking lot coins ? I’m sure it’s high !!! The future of this hobby is bright !!! Full of new bright minded people who don’t want to learn ….