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  1. Anyone have any they want to part with ? Thanks...
  2. That was very kind of you to do that research.
  3. Hey Roger did you happen to look to see what town she was from in Italy.. someone posted in the PCGS 1921 Peace $ thread some family historical records but again, they were silent as to the name of the town...
  4. Toned moderns (post 1964) arent cooling off.... matter of fact they are heating up...
  5. Trying to figure out prices on toners is almost impossible. This is almost completely subjective. The toners that Skyman is talking about cannot be reasonable priced. High quality toners are best to cosigned to an auction to realize the best prices. Even if you placed a 2 or 3x guide on those coins you might end up be well short of the true value as Skyman notes above. I would love to think that some of my toners are 4-5x guide but its difficult to imagine a lot of people paying that.
  6. Auction results minus 20-25% if you are trying to unload your collection en mass to a dealer. Guides mean nothing to me. Its what someone is willing to pay. I create lists on Amazon of auction results to keep track of them and of course Heritage has a great database of auction results.
  7. I have a 38-D with similar colors on the obverse (not as much though) so Im going with the NT crowd. As for grade, I cant grade Buffaloes to save my life. Hope it comes back MS for ya!
  8. Some are still at .99 cents with free shipping... these are going cheap ! High bidder on the PCGS Sample Slab gets the NGC Sample Slab for free!
  9. That was my first thought as well but I dont know Seated Dollars to be able to comment. I do believe in the old adage "if its too good to be true."
  10. Why after the first $5 million didnt he just leave the country and head to Belize... I will never understand why thieves dont understand that eventually they will be caught. Greed always does them in.
  11. Same coin, PCGS just gave it a color bump to a + and CAC'd at 67 and 67+... and that added $6k in value... Edit: My misread... I thought you were linking to another MS65, not the one in the OP. And yes I like the OP 65 better as well.
  12. No offense taken. I hardly bid on them anymore. Ive been priced out. Its hard to buy B and C coins for A+ money when you bought A+ coins for B and C money... I just cannot imagine paying some of these prices for the coins being offered. Granted the 23-D, if I had that kinda of disposable income I would have stepped up but thats in the too deep end of the pool for me....
  13. Does anyone know if this is biggest mistake PCGS has ever made that they have acknowledged publicly, mechanical or otherwise ? There has to be bigger... this is only a $40,000 mistake (technically not actually) Was there some penny that turned or some rare ASE that was a 70 that developed spots... I cant really remember.
  14. And that why I always add .01 to any bid just in case that happens! I would have hated losing that coin over .01
  15. Your "more probably true than not" is my "without exception." One man's indecisiveness is another man's absolute.
  16. Its inductive reasoning.... sometimes you cannot have all of the facts in absolute terms before you, but you draw inferences based on reasonable conclusions. The fact that you have stated you have not seen a more colorful 23-D only leads me to the belief that my statement is more true than even before. If someone with the experience and expertise such that of Mark Feld has not seen a more colorful 23-D then its is more probably true than not - that one just simply does not exist. Thank you for helping confirm my suspicions. As for the 40-S yes, I agree that is an impermissible assumption since we are not dealing with facts but rather emotion. Who knows, the coin could have been owned the deceased grandfather of the recent buyer and he could have merely want to reclaim a family heirloom and would have paid $5000 for it for sentimental reasons, having nothing to do with grade or color.
  17. Post photos/links if you have a more colorful example. And yes, Ive never seen one more colorful. In 20 yrs of specializing in them I might have forgotten a coin or two but 23-Ds are rare for color. If there's a more colorful 23-D MS67 example that you've seen, I'd love to hear about it. As for the MS65 40-S WLH, do you honestly think someone bought it believing that it could go from an MS65 to MS67 without the toning ? I think whoever bought it is betting on a upgrade. Without the color bump, its not happening so its probably one in the same anyway. No ?
  18. That Peace $ is about 2.5-3x value for the toning premium based on prices three years ago when it sold. And without question, its the most colorful 1923-D in existence. I would venture to guess its probably the highest graded colorfully toned 23-D as well. So being a one of a kind coin, it makes sense that it went that high. There are always outliers. Is this 40-S WLH a one of a kind coin ? I dont know. But at even at a grade of MS66 it still hammered at a priced that is 2.5-3x for the toning premium. If it doesnt get into an MS66+ or higher Im going to say the value is maxed out at $2100. But there are a lot of people with deep pockets that over spend on coins everyday... As for the 23-D Peace $, I will predict it will lose 25% value when it comes back to auction.
  19. I dont know the WLH market but I have studied the toned Peace $ market extensively for the past 10+ years. What I can tell you, which may or may not be obvious, is that the toning premium diminishes significantly with higher graded coins. Sure people will pay 10-20x toning premium on a common date MS64 1922 toned Peace $. But they arent going to pay even a 3-4x toning premium on a 1934-S MS64 or a 1922 MS67 Peace $. I usually see, at most, a .5 to 1x premium on the highest graded coins, if any premium. Why? Because no one wants to be buried in a coin. And when you start paying more than .5-1x premium on a high grade coin you need a color bump to get yourself out of the coin with a profit and as we all know thats not always going to happen. Or you need to find 2 people that love it more that you did, which isnt always going to happen either. If this coin gets into an MS66 at PCGS I see it being maxed out already, but hey I hope Im wrong for the buyer's sake. Would someone go $2500 on a MS66 ?
  20. Im kinda shocked this coin went over $2000. Im not a WLH guy but I dont see how this coin goes 67 or 67+ in a PCGS slab. Maybe a 66+ but I still say the $$$ between 66 and 67 is too great when the coin isnt all there. I hope someone keeps their eye out to see if it comes back up for sale in a PCGS slab. It will be interesting.