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  1. Quiet Willie and the Admiral look a lot alike .... (I'm kidding about the Walloon-Balloon, Quiet Willie and other stuff, but to be serious for a moment --- Leeg's research and content on classic commemoratives is so much more interesting, integrated and authoritative, that I have difficulty understanding why Whitman, or another deep pocket publisher hasn't jumped on the project.)
  2. They have false information, speculation and ignorance in common.
  3. Exchange, sale, purchase and other distribution of pattern/experimental pieces was commonplace during the 19th century. The Newlin exchanges during 1885-1886 merely happens to be clearer than most. The last attempt to confiscate pattern/experimental pieces was in 1910 by Director Andrew. It failed, as have all others. The difficulty is that many patterns were legitimately sold on authority of the Mint Director - an authority which he/she possessed. Further, none of them were coins - the design or composition not having been legally adopted. Pieces given to members of Congress or others, but not accompanied by a return order, were considered nominal gifts of valueless chattel. That is, the US Mint/Treasury had to establish that it was retaining all ownership in the pieces. A more recent circumstance reinforces this. At several of the Annual Mint Conferences held in Washington and Philadelphia, the Mint and/or BEP have given - free and clear - sample planchets, autographed currency and other items to participants. There was no accompanying statement retaining ownership, so the items were legal gifts. Decisions precluding items called patterns or experimental pieces from being confiscated date from the Linderman auction and Director Kimball's attempt to seize certain pieces as being illegal off-metal items. The US Attorney disagreed with Kimball's arguments and the pieces were allowed to be retained by Linderman's Estate. Andrew's 1910 attempt, which included a "sting" operation, failed for similar reasons and affirmed that "once the horse was out of the barn, it was free." A parallel conclusion was reached in regard to US gold coins that had not been subject to distribution by common means. Treasury counsel determined, with support from Mr. Tripp and myself, that if any record or any kind existed showing even one piece had been released on authority of the Treasurer or other Official (including the Director), then all such pieces were deemed legitimate. DE of 1933 were the only coins for which no release record could be found. (The Farouk export license could have been argued as applying. This was explained.)
  4. If you place your coin at the mean distance of the moon, 382,500 kilometers, it will then be just as easy to photograph. Little labels could then be added as on the composite lunar photo.
  5. Here's a record of exchanges of pattern pieces between H.P. Newlin and the Mint Cabinet of Coins. Thought it might be of general interest.
  6. This is a larger local coin bourse, and occasionally features some especially good deals. You can also get an intro to the Northern Virginia Coin Club which has quickly become one of the premier clubs in the region (along with the Montgomery County Coin Club).
  7. This is the original of William the Silent. The painter did a little retouching. His half-brother was Gabriel the Gabby.
  8. The CW and other articles have the same problems as trying to discuss the 1933 DE - speculation, innuendo, confusion and misinformation - combined with a generous amount of ignorance on how the U.S. Mint operated in 1933. Again, not permitted to explain by the court. No one at the Treasury knew how the place was run back then - they did not keep their own records - and no amount of research over a few months could have possibly revealed what I was prepared to present and support with data. This would have effectively precluded any meaningful questions by Treasury counsel, so the Court prohibited any mention of reality, and sustained Treasury objection when we attempted to introduce it. Now let's just drop the subject because the horse is long dead, chopped into dog food, and pooped along the roadside.
  9. Collars have to be trained -- just like collies, lawyers and other service animals.
  10. A stained and tarnished quarter. None of the "...double reverse and ive [sic] seen double date after 67 seens [sic] like 32, and double eagle..." claimed are present. Worth 25-cents.
  11. Had Barber not spent $160 to buy the patterns, they would likely have been destroyed except for the two in the Mint collection. Ordinary employees had no such access. (Note the fate of the small diameter $20.) RE: "'s quite likely that McCann and/or others helped themselves to special coins at times...." There were no special coins, except for a few commemorative halves, made during McCann's employment at the Philadelphia Mint. In his job he had no access to the Engraving Department. There was nothing on which to make a profit and no legitimate way to remove coins or bullion. As for the 1933 DE - The reason for McCann's investigation was because he, and another employee, had stolen circulation coins from the Mint and was convicted of theft. He was also investigated in relation to the missing bag of 1928 DE, but USSS and IRS could never establish a connection. Sadly, the 1933 DE story is so polluted by speculation, innuendo, confusion and misinformation among collectors, that it's nearly impossible to have any kind of meaningful discussion. The facts are few. Mr. Tripp and I agreed on the basics; but he was allowed by the Court to discuss those, and I was prohibited by the Court from doing so. The jury thus heard only one side; and that circumstance was not something to be reviewed on appeal.
  12. The cat was free - as they always are - the camera attachment was $7.95 at the local Fuzzy Image store in the half-empty mall.
  13. Barber's ownership of SG patterns and others was entirely legal. They were not coins, the director permitted the purchases. There is absolutely no similarity in situation between 1933 DE - normal coins - and EHR $20 that were not legal coin at all. (This is part of the consistent misinformation, falsehoods and ignorance on which the Govt lawyers based their case - and it sold to the jury.)
  14. A piece of a die cannot break off then "settle back into the die." A coinage die is not "Little House on the Prairie." When a piece breaks off of a die, or when there is spalling, the force of coining will grind it into the die face and soon into an abrasive dust. This was a problem with 1913 nickels Type I (See Renaissance of American Coinage 1909-1915 for details and comments by Mint Engraver Barber.)
  15. Bullion business buyers try to intimidate and stretch the margin whenever they can. It is not possible to verify anything about a gold or silver bullion piece stuck in a sealed holder. The assumption is that it is a nice looking fake.
  16. Several years ago there was an internal discussion about using the reeding on bullion pieces to improve alignment in capsules and other holders. (Result in simpler automation and savings.) Not sure if this is a result, or if the Mint's resident dentist got carried away in excitement.
  17. New collectors (and old ones, too) might enjoy this coin bourse in Annandale, VA, just off I-495 in the Washington DC area. (The only village in Virginia with 3 "N's" in its name!) Annandale Coin Show Northern Virginia Community College Ernst Community Cultural Center 8333 Little River Turnpike, Annandale, VA 22003 July 24-25, 2021 90 Tables Featuring a Wide Variety of Numismatic Collectibles Free Admission / Free Parking Public Hours: Saturday, July 24th: 10:00-5:00 Sunday, July 25th: 10:00-4:00
  18. Nope. That was Wally Breen's comment. No reductions or dies were made outside of the Philadelphia Mint. Barber did not know how to use the new reducing lathe, so one of the Weil brothers came in and did the first reductions while training George Soley and Harry Blythe.
  19. Most of my coin photos are taken using the family cat. Plug the camera attachment in to the accessory slot just below the tail-piece, and your camera into the USB plug. Pinch the cat's whiskers...your photo will be visible on your PC or phone screen. Here's a picture of the special plug --- easy to use but will not slip out of place.
  20. Bottom. All details are different and it is not so much of a "cartoon."
  21. The rims have numerous cuts and indents from damage. To get that way, the coin had to have been abused in circulation. The faces would have acquired similar damage. The faces were then smoothed over to look better.
  22. It's a simple error, but one that should not be allowed to pass for a professional company like NGC.
  23. Sinnock did not take office until August 1925. The copper piece is likely a die trial - to make sure it is ready for use.
  24. Congressman. Albert Vestal Chairman of the House Coinage Committee.