S.J.H.

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  1. the beav, Thank you for your reply. In NGC's "Understanding NGC Details Grading" article, there is a section labelled as "Coins NGC Will Not Grade at All". Within that category that include items such as Added Mintmark, Altered Date, Not Genuine, Questionable Authenticity, and Altered Surface. Alongside the term 'Altered Mintmark', they say the following: "ALTERED SURFACE is a general term used to describe a coin whose surfaces are clearly not natural but whose exact treatment is uncertain. Among the deceptive processes that fall into this category is the application of pastes to either hide contact marks or to simulate Cameo frosting or Prooflike brilliance." I dislike the ambiguity of the above definition, where it seems to be more of a 'catch all' designation when there is uncertainty of coming to a precise decision on an item. Since coins with an altered surface will apparently not be encapsulated by NGC, I see three possible next steps: Resubmit the coin back to NGC and see if it still comes back as altered surface or ends up in a regular details holder. Use NCS to see if they can conserve the surface somehow and then go to NGC to see how they grade it. Go through PCGS and see if they will slab it as PCGS Genuine Altered Surface. What do all of you think about this? Any other information regarding genuineness, altered surface characteristics, grade, conservation possibilities, value, or future grading options would again all be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
  2. Sorry about that Mark. I edited my post above to properly cite you. I believe I will contact NGC just to see what they have to say though.
  3. MarkFeld, Thank you for your reply. I had several other coins in this submission that came back as slabbed, problem-free, numerically graded as well as others that came back slabbed in details holders with "Improperly Cleaned", "Repaired, Rim Filed", "Whizzed", etc. In this same submission I had a 1909S Indian 1c that came back the same way as the 1901S Barber 25c, but with a label that says "***NOT ENCAPSULATED*** ALTERED MINTMARK". The 1909S Indian 1c is packaged the same way with a label that says "Guaranteed Authentic Only", which doesn't make any sense if they consider the mintmark to be altered. According to other sites I have reviewed, the "Altered Surface" designation is a pretty vague designation. Some believe that this means NGC is not saying whether the piece is genuine or not. Others state that the surface may be altered in such a way that it is impossible to know precisely whether or not the coin is genuine or not. I can understand how a grading company wouldn't want to stick their neck out and say that a piece is genuine and find out later that it isn't. I just wish they would have provided more details on what form of "Altered Surface" they are referring to. As before, thank you for the reply. Any other information regarding genuineness, altered surface characteristics, grade, conservation possibilities, value, or future grading options would again all be greatly appreciated.
  4. Hello Everyone, I am hoping to gain some insight into a recently NGC-graded 1901S Barber 25c. As shown below, this came back in a "body bag" in a plastic flip holder with a label saying "***NOT ENCAPSULATED*** ALTERED SURFACE". My primary question is whether this means that NGC has determined this as genuine or not. While the bottom of the label says "Guaranteed Authentic Only", does this mean that it is genuine, but not able to be slabbed - or does the statement "Not Encapsulated" negate the guarantee at the bottom? I have included some other pictures below of the obverse and reverse to show more detail. Any comments on what may have caused this to be considered altered surface would be greatly appreciated. Any other comments about the condition/details of the coin would also be appreciated. Note that the scratches on the coin obverse in the picture below appear exaggerated as compared to how they look through a magnifying loupe under the same light. I am also looking for any suggestions on what the next step may be for this piece. One possibility would be to send it to PCGS to see what they think. Another would be to send it to NGC through NCS to see if there is a way to conserve the surface to make it gradable. Personally, I see no way to conserve the surface in order to improve coin without damaging it. For those not familiar with this coin, assuming it would receive a VG grade, it could be worth $5,000-$7,000+. I am very interested in knowing anyone's comments on this piece. Any information regarding genuineness, altered surface characteristics, grade, conservation possibilities, value, or future grading options would all be greatly appreciated. Thank You. - SEE PICTURES BELOW
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    Oversize Holder Submission

    On the NGC Services and Fees page it explains that to have a coin placed in an NGC oversize holder it must be submitted on a separate submission form. I have two different items that I would like graded and put into oversize holders. Do I need to have two separate submission forms or can I put both of them on the same one? Thank You.