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  1. This has been answered on other chat boards with good results. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the product that was used. It was one of the plastic polishes like something used on car headlight lenses. You can search the other boards. I don't think it is proper for me to link to the exact discussion.
  2. The color of the coin is often a good indication of its originality. Follow the advice above to learn what the color of an untoned coin in your series should look like.
  3. Nice coin! Many ancient collectors recommend soaking the con in distilled water as a FIRST STEP.. That should loosen any of the dirt on its surface. They also recommend using a brass brush but don't do it! If you post your coin on the ancient coin section of "Coin Talk Forum" you should receive many recommendations. Read them all but start very slowly (distilled water) as the coin is very nice as is.
  4. Hey Matt, I looked for a Private Message section - no luck. Is everyone still at NCS? Chris? Wink, Skippy
  5. What is the point Gene? What do you wish to prove? This is pure nonsense and IMO does not belong in the publication where it appears. Perhaps they ran out of the excellent content I usually see and needed to fill some space. Perhaps the eager writer should rethink what "advancing numismatic knowledge" actually involves. A Rare 1911 $5 Gold Piece Gene Brandenburg writes: "I wanted to inform readers of the spectacular rarity I obtained at the last St. Maries County Coin Club. It is a 1911 Philadelphia mint $5.00 gold piece with an "S" mint mark (photos via Dave Schenkman) authenticated and graded by the well respected NGC which makes it an absolute rarity I'm sure. How NGC came to realize that this was struck at the Philadelphia mint is a tribute to their expertise, they are truly quite wise. More interestingly, why did the Philadelphia mint make this coin with a San Francisco mint mark ? After checking many, many auction records going back many decades, this is the first to ever appear - Dave feels that it could be worth millions. This surpasses by far another rarity I came across years ago - a czarist gold 5 rouble of Catherine The Great authenticated and graded by the equally respected PCGS that actually was a gold 10 rouble, why the Russian mint master made this enigma remains an 18th century mystery to me. I remain always eager to inform, advancing numismatic knowledge wherever and whenever I can."
  6. Not the "L" variety. The "8" on your coin is damaged.
  7. What do you wish to know? The "Omega" $3 was first detected by F. Michael Fazzari when he worked at the ANA's Certification Service in DC. He discovered the "Omaga" $20 fake shortly before finding this one. The "Omega" on a $3 linked the maker to both "State-of-the-Art" (back then) counterfeits; and inspired the counterfeit column in the Numismatist magazine by Charles Hoskins - "Mr. "Omega" please write."
  8. Since it is one piece, it is on all others that were struck at the same time on the same press. Cannot say how common or uncommon. A great number of collectors do not regard a rotated die special (unless it is much more rotated and major) and don't bother to look for them. With the advent of slabbing, it is very easy to detect rotation, yet most collectors don't care. In my experience, TPGS do not put "rotated die" on the label unless requested. Does the rotation add a little value? Perhaps to 1 in 5000 collectors. Keep this a secret between us. I should rather own a coin with some die rotation than a normal coin.
  9. Recently the SL 50c series has been targeted by some very deceptive fakes. There would be no reason to produce one this "good" and then damage it up so IMO (using borderline images) I say genuine. The mark above the head looks like a scratch rather than a die break. I would not waste a cent getting it checked as some TPGS offer free opinions at shows. Additionally, there are many professionals to show it to. I further suggest that you take new images using florescent light (THE ONLY USEFUL LIGHT FOR AUTHENTICATION). Then post your coin on Collectors Universe so more folks can see it. As of now, two qualified numismatists disagree.
  10. Yeah, you are correct. It's said that each of us has two things and one of them is an opinion. Mr. Jones (who claims to have seen the coin) and I are just guessing. What you and I may agree on is the professionals didn't see what you don't see either. ROTFL! Have fun and good luck in your collecting pursuits!
  11. Note to other posters: If Bill says he saw the coin and it has an "L" carved into it, THE COIN HAS AN "L" CARVED INTO IT! I have not seen the coin in-hand. Nevertheless, I can see the "L" and it is not a photographic fluke. There are enough "clues" in the image when blown up that knowledgeable folks who know what to look for can tell it is PMD. Knowledgeable folks don't need TPGS or CAC to authenticate or grade for them. Unfortunately, in my experience these folks are few and far between. They are the top professional dealers, experienced, long-time TPGS employees, and top collectors. The next level - are most of us fairly knowledgeable collectors and dealers who still need the "crutch." Below us are the ignorant. The "for profit" TPGS were started to make money. They were to do this by providing a service - basically, putting an acceptable "retail" value on a coin and guaranteeing it was genuine. They established a more "protected market" for the ignorant and for those who were not as skilled or informed. They failed. Not completely, but enough to make room for another group - CAC- to monitor the opinion of the TPGS, make a profit, and establish a narrower value for coins. Grading is subjective. If the TPGS and CAC decided that a coin with obvious graffiti is worth MS-63 money, it is. They back up that grade with a guarantee. That has nothing to do with PROTECTING the ignorant. IMO, they are trying to protect the retail coin market. Unfortunately, they CANNOT DO BOTH WELL as the example here shows. IMO, both services made a poor decision with this coin. Bill is correct and unlike you, his opinion is NOT A GUESS!
  12. First off Bill, some folks posting on this site were (you too?) in this business before JA graduated high school. There was no CAC or TPGS. Several services authenticated coins only. I'll bet 99% of the posters here (including you ?) are ignorant of the fact that ANACS was NOT the first independent coin grading and authentication service. JA came up through the "ranks" along with our host Salzberg, and most of the famous and successful numismatists around today (You again Bill). Many of them - JA - in this case (Rick Snow is another) developed a terrific, low-cost idea to "sticker" other people's product. Pure genius. Both provide a desirable service or they would not continue it. Let's stay with CAC. They make errors! However, when they make an error THEY COMPOUND THE TPGS ERROR!!! As you continuously show with examples, that is NOT GOOD. We all desire that they HOLD THE LINE as they claim to do but life and numismatics are not perfect. It just may be that some folks (like myself and a few others who come off as being perfect in their own mind...) need to point out the imperfections of others to feel superior. As for CAC, the coin market has spoken (so have you, over, and over, and...) You LOOSE! That's why it is getting old. You have too much to share with us and when you start doing that more often, there will be fewer folks complaining about you personally and taking up space/time on the various coin forums that could have been used for more productive discussions. For example, a photo of the damaged dollar coin only (without the grade and CAC sticker) showing the "L" and explaining what to look for (one member could not see it) and then a warning to buy the coin, not the label... Instead, let's slam the two companies! Did you make a note of the slab # and make calls to alert both parties to try and get it off the market and properly graded (AS I HAVE DONE ON MANY OCCASIONS)? This is what I hope you were serious about: "I'll be quiet..." Four other things I wish to add to my rant: 1. I've been professionally involved in consumer protection for almost fifty years so that's strike one. 2. I DID NOT follow you over here. I've been a member of the Collector Society boards for years. I prefer to post much more often on other forums so that's strike two. 3. I don't care who/what you don't respect. While you are a talented numismatist, I've met you and heard your ugly gossip personally. 4. We'll have to wait and see if you honor your post to keep quiet or if you strikeout...Wink.
  13. While the lighting at any coin show is terrible the use of Fluorescent light vs Incandescent light is an interesting topic of discussion. Both have their uses. Short and sweet: Fluorescent light is the ONLY light suitable for counterfeit detection and seeing wear on the high points of a coin that looks to be uncirculated. Incandescent light shows marks, luster, and hairlines on coins.
  14. LOL. Mr.Bill, you caught another unfortunate error by PCGS and CAC. I wonder what the percentage of this type of mistake (EXCLUDING GRADING AND LABELING) exists out of the hundreds of thousands of coins PCGS has graded or NGC and CAC too? I've seen examples of many coins in your collection that you post. You have an eye for quality. You also have a reputation for educating collectors. I have a sincere suggestion as I'm getting a little tired of reading your posts about those incompetents at CAC. You might better serve all of us collectors if you would stick to the best parts of numismatics as you know them and abandon the band wagon of TPGS and CAC mistakes. Yes, they are out there. Yes, they are all over the place. Unfortunately, many of these "problem" coins are detected by the graders yet considered to be tolerable. Trust me, the "L" was not missed by either service. It seems to me that a "gem" dollar was knocked down two grades to indicate its retail value. AFAIK, both CAC and PCGS (NGC, ANACS, and ICG) have strong guarantees. Nevertheless, you, me, and most here would consider that gold dollar as damaged and uncollectable! AFAIK, CAC will even buy it! I hope you consider this suggestion and keep showing your collection and posting GTG coins. We don't need to be told/shown over-and-over that: 1. We should buy the coin and not the holder. 2. All coins that are graded the same are not equal. 3. A knowledgeable numismatist (you for example) is often a better judge of coins than a TPGS because the numismatist has only his own standards to follow. 4. The TPGS and CAC make errors some of which are not intentional. Best Regards!