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  1. Furthermore, as I argued in a previous discussion thread, coins labeled "first strike" are probably on average slightly inferior to those without the designation, and therefore "first strike" labeled coins should generally sell for a slight discount, or preferably be avoided.
  2. If you already have intact rolls or boxes of early silver eagles purchased about when issued, you should definitely scrutinize them carefully for possible 70s, and submit the best candidates to NGC. The limitations are the quality of the materials and your grading ability. However, don't realistically expect to find any 70s in those you've newly obtained, because they will almost certainly have been checked by previous owners. If you're fortunate enough to get any 70s, you can definitely get close to the price guide amounts for them by submitting to auction at such reputable places as Great Collections.
  3. Well of course the questions I posed had no probative value, since they didn't consist of evidence in court proceedings. An absurd expectation for questions. On the contrary I freely admitted they were leading questions. To hopefully lead anyone interested in the subject to delve into the implausible ramifications of their accusations. So it is implausible that the United States would some day actually enforce its own laws as interpreted by federal appeals courts? If that is implausible, then this country has far more problems (legally) than just the HPA/18 USC 485-490 statutes. In this situation, the technical details render DC's fantasy products outside the purview of those statutes, provisions, and precedents, as already very carefully explained by DC himself in a variety of postings. Furthermore, the opinion of any particular lawyer or judge cannot be considered the final word in a case like this with differing interpretations. Decisions are frequently overturned, and panels of judges are often split.
  4. Well of course the questions I posed had no probative value, since they didn't consist of evidence in court proceedings. An absurd expectation for questions. On the contrary I freely admitted they were leading questions. To hopefully lead anyone interested in the subject to delve into the implausible ramifications of their accusations.
  5. The only discourtesy the questions so far have elicited is from you Mr.Mcknowitall. And you're wrong. The questions were designed to try injecting a little levity into the discussion, as did one poster claiming that as judge he'd sentence DC to life without parole, and also to hopefully not keep flogging the same dead horse on this topic, as several posters previously complained about, plus I had an additional motive. As a patron of and advocate for DC, I hoped the questions would help people realize it's almost inconceivable he will be indicted, and practically impossible he would then be convicted, and any punishment whatsoever would amount to a miscarriage of justice. The government can never realistically confiscate his past products. Furthermore, there is already a substantial aftermarket premium for Moonlight Mint fantasies, and the publicity for them being generated by the critics has increased interest in them.
  6. Yet another question: 4. How will the aftermarket value of the DC fantasies be affected by a judgement they were made illegally?
  7. Questions, please, for anyone who believes the Dan Carr fantasy pieces are counterfeit: 1. When do you predict Dan Carr will be indicted, what year, will it for example be 2017, 2020, 2025, 2050, or never? 2. If he's convicted, what punishment or penalties do you foresee? What do you think he really deserves? 3. Regarding the fantasy pieces already distributed, if declared counterfeit, do you think confiscation will be attempted by the government, and if so, under what terms?
  8. Numismatics is clearly in decline, and among the reasons are the profusion of high quality counterfeits, as well as plenty of other scams, shady deals, misrepresentations, and chicanery, so almost every offer is treated as suspicious. The recent discovery of some nearly perfect counterfeits leads to the conclusion that with advancing technology, future fakes will be virtually undetectable, and some are probably already around. It's a downward spiral. By contrast, Dan Carr's exonumia are a boost to numismatics, in their small way they are adding to the interest, popularity and collectibility of coins, and he should receive appreciation for his considerable efforts and craftsmanship.
  9. Am very glad Dan Carr has so effectively demolished the complaints of both the skeptics and those with a vendetta against his creations. With so many shenanigans out there involving collectibles, his is a straightforward aboveboard operation.
  10. With due respect to those with opposite opinions, I find various products of Dan Carr's Moonlight Mint to be highly desirable, my personal favorite is his fantasy token 1816 capped bust half, sold about five or six years ago. I'd like to hear from whoever wishes to dispose of one. As for the possibility of an unsuspecting wealthy novice collector being scammed, has there ever been a single example of that happening? Anyone with a reference such as a Redbook, or access to on-line information could hardly be victimized. Were any such scam to occur, probably it would make huge headlines.
  11. Thanks for various thoughtful and entertaining replies. Meanwhile the meteoric rise of silver has paused since the July 4th weekend. I doubt it was the purchases of Joe-6-pack that caused the rapid rise, especially since there was already a glut of available silver bullion at retail. We really need to know the volume of silver trades to assess that, where is the chart please? One possible alternate explanation: some large entity, such as a nation or a giant financial conglomerate, had been waiting to jump into silver, and conveniently used the Brexit referendum outcome as a cover for their activities.
  12. Have been watching the usual places but still without noting any credible explanation for the substantial recent increase in silver prices, currently over $20, it can't just be due to Brexit because other precious metals have only risen by relatively small amounts. Any ideas?
  13. If you know about how much you want, the best place to sell might be here in The Money Marketplace, at least consider giving it a try.
  14. As intimated by several previous posters, there has to be a compelling reason this coin is being sold raw. The seller is a very experienced numismatist, also handling slabbed coins, and he knows very well this would be enormously more valuable if it were being sold inside a graded holder as without major problems. When a coin with this level of price tag is being offered raw, that is highly suspicious from almost any seller, but most especially so in this situation.
  15. Neat pieces, very tempting! You may eventually regret undoing this collection.
  16. Obit from the Essex News Daily of New Jersey: David J. Ginsburg, Age 57, of Glen Ridge, NJ, passed away unexpectedly on February 3, 2016. Beloved husband of Elisabeth and devoted father of Katherine. Loving brother of Sharon Lesgold and Rachel Ginsburg. Born August 22, 1957 in Kingman, Arizona, son of Benjamin and Esther Ginsburg. Earned a BA from Northwestern University and MBA from the University of Missouri. Served as an officer in the U.S. Air Force from 1980-1985. Resident of Glen Ridge for the past 26 years. Trustee of the Glen Ridge Library Board, Secretary and Past President of the NJ Numismatic Society and winner of its Nettleship Award for numismatic accomplishment. Visitation will be Friday, February 5, from 4 to 8 pm at the O’Boyle Funeral Home, Bloomfield, NJ. Services will be held Saturday, February 6, at 10 am at St. Luke’s Church, Montclair, NJ. Please express condolences at For those who wish, in lieu of flowers, donations in David’s name should be made to the Glen Ridge Library.
  17. Extremely sad news. Dave had a scholarly interest in Dahlonega mint gold, among many other pursuits. Please post here any detailed obituaries when they appear.
  18. Mark Twain, 1908: "Some years ago on the gold coins we used to trust in God. It think it was in 1863 that some genious suggested that it be put on the gold and silver coins which circulated among the rich. They didn't put it on the nickels and coppers because they didn't think the poor folks had any trust in God....If I remember rightly, the President required or ordered the removal of that sentence from the coins. Well, I didn't see that the statement ought to remain there. It wasn't true."
  19. Thanks for posting the photo of the obverse, of course we cannot possibly grade it from that image, especially with so much lint. But it might have a little abrasion on the chin, and there might be a small diagonal scrape at the bottom of the neck, please check those spots. Any such noticeable imperfections would alone be sufficient to lower the grade from 70 to 69. Yes, of course you're perfectly correct, no coins are perfect. I think physics-fan3.14 might be right. Full Disclosure: This was my first submission ever. And my first platinum coin. Before submitting it, I compared with a PF70 Ultra Cameo 2014-S Kennedy half and a PF70 reverse cameo 2015 Canada Maple Leaf (very cool e=mc2 privy). I thought it compared well with the Kennedy. Maybe a few too many tiny spots? And one spot a bit bigger than the rest: (Most of those white spots are dust & lint on the plastic capsule.) My PF70 Maple Leaf has minor issues too -- most notably, a light blotching tone (?) all around the rim's edge. But overall, I think it's slightly better than my Kennedy and Eagle. Point is, maybe there's no such thing as a perfect coin. Bottom Line: If you're trying to decide if your coin is perfect enough to grade 70, well, good luck.
  20. The guy who made that claim he only got one graded 70 out of a submission of 18 "fresh" coins is buying actively on the secondary market, and persons selling to him had probably already picked out the best examples for themselves. That can be true even if "sealed" boxes were being bought, because in this case the coins were mailed in cardboard boxes easy enough to pry open inobtrusively, and then reseal. It's nearly impossible to distinguish between a box that is originally sealed and one carefully resealed. When buying a 2015 Pt proof from anyone other than an intimate source, be sure to either examine the coin first, or have an explicit right of return for a full refund if not satisfied. If you submitted and were disappointed in a 69, scrutinize the coin for any flaws. If you don't see anything obvious, your coin might have been a borderline 70, and therefore try resubmitting it later, you might be pleasantly rewarded. However, if collecting these, 69s are almost indistinguishable from 70s, and with Pt now hovering around its 10 year low, this might be a great time to pick up bargain 69s of other dates. Some designs on Pt eagles are gorgeous, my favorite is the 1999. The odds of getting a 70 might not be as good as you think. One guy recently submitted 18 for grading. Only one graded 70 -- the remaining 17 he had returned unslabbed & ungraded. See pg 19 for details:
  21. According to today's issue of Mint News Blog, the final mintage for the 2015 proof platinum eagle is 3881, down slightly from the expected 4000, the deficiency of 119 coins perhaps due to damage/faults, or lost/missing, or maybe never actually produced. 2015 is now therefore the key date by a margin of 721 pieces for the one ounce proofs, made every year since 1997, the census by quantity minted for the scarcer dates being: 2015 ---- 3881 2014 ---- 4602 2008 ---- 4769 2013 ---- 5763 2004 ---- 6007 2005 ---- 6602 The above does not take into account the burnished nor the regular bullion issues, nor the fractional coins, it is exclusively for the one ounce proofs, which form the only continuous series for platinum eagles. Another one ounce proof coin has been promised for 2016, specifications and issue date still unknown.