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Welcome to the NGC chat board. The coin was struck from worn dies, which on copper plated zinc cents sometimes results in a warped area near the rim. The presence of the rim indicates that the collar was in place, so the coin isn't broadstruck. I see no indication of its having been struck through any foreign object or matter. We can't tell whether the dies were rotated out of the normal "coin turn" orientation from the photos provided.

Yes, a normal cent.

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Business doing business a favor is what I call it … The average Joe collectors like us sending in coins to have them graded by NGC/PCGS we are peanuts compared to bigger dealers who what really keep NGC/PCGS in business sending in bulk submissions market grading was dirty scam that was created and driven by dealers to profit money , in theory I say TPG has went off the rails with market grading does it really do good ? In a dealer’s standpoint his main goal when sending coins in is to get highway grade he can possibly get for profit… For us collectors ? We get a huge dent in our wallets trying to obtain these higher end coins , if we were to crack one out and send them in ourselves I guarantee you we will get grade point lower most of the time

The Saskatoon Coin Club is one of my favorite websites. Nice find.

While the headline of this story said 'robberies', they go on to report 'burglaries'. I've been the victim of a burglary before, but thankfully, never a robbery.

I'd consider the source. A newb getting burned and knowledgeable "dealer" or collector not, well, I would expect that 100% of the time. I do think that dealers or well known individuals do have an advantage in getting things authenticated through TPGs that would be returned as normal to regular submitter.

Correct, it is a Far Date. Nice find. I usually just go by the distance between the 3 and 2. If the distance is equal, it is a Near Date, if the 2 is closer to the 3, it is a Far Date.

I agree. Just a regular 1990 business strike. What makes you think it is a proof?

It is neither a Struck THROUGH or a Broadstruck that I can see. To show if it is rotated, take a photo in front of a mirror so we can see both sides at once.

It's a normal Philadelphia minted business strike cent. Not a no S Proof cent.

no s lincoln cent???????? is this a no s???

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I seem to have a depth-perception problem. I was running through some foreign coins and found this 1932 5iver. I copied the description graphic below from the Saskatoon Coin Club. Any thoughts?

Excellent points. I agree: we here on these Forums are certainly SERIOUS or ACTIVE collectors. Most people might fall into the LAPSED or INACTIVE categories.

Probably less of a concern now with CACG but there are lots of stories about this in the affirmative. I'll leave it to the vets here to discuss.

Possible strike threw on obverse, rotated obverse/reverse, Possible broad struck.

Excellent post, and fun to read! I agree with the majority of the advice, and it is very well presented. I would offer 2 observations though, newbie that I am. Most of the more experienced posters of this...or any, really...forum, may want to skip these observations though, as the following statements are facts most will prefer not to admit. Not as condusive to their ego health as lightly masked patronization via charity answers they could be giving out instead. Observation 1: The use of the term "Pros" in forums here should not be assumed to mean professionals. What it means is that there are individuals whom have invested enough time and generated and continue to generate volumes of experience, whether towards general knowledge or through niche specializations that most of us have never even heard of, that when time permits may be willing to offer relevant information from their knowledge and/or experience as it applies to the photos and questions that newbie members post to forum chat when seeking answers. Giving answers to such questions without requiring compensation redefines those who answer as hobbyists, charity providers, and on VERY rare occasions, Sadists. So any newbie should construct their post in such a manner as to attract an answer from whichever of those 3 types previously defined as "pros" that will likely reply/comment/answer. Observation 2: Time is precious, most of us understand this on some level. So anyone that takes time to answer any newbie post, should be appreciated whether it be Welcome! Congratulations! Or I'm sorry, but that is PSD! What I failed to mention in Observation 1, is that a hobbyist, charity provider, and yes even a sadist (actually very likely a sadist!) Can all be highly knowledgeable experts that have forgotten more about numismatics than...no, that is b.s. because they are usually sharp as tacks and rarely forget anything, remembering even the most obscure facts that have seemingly no actual purpose other than to remain known by someone! Plus many possess the ability to discern variances in details paired with knowledge through experience of where to even look for such variances. Or have established relationships with others who specialize in such things. These are some of the people answering questions, the people us newbies came to hear from, so we should accept the answer, not waste time that could be better spent searching for another REAL rarity! Right? Ummm, about that. I honestly don't know anyone here. Likely my post was my first, and I am not sure what your 5876 other posts over the last 14 years were about, so please do not take offense when you tell me my coin is Post Strike Damage and I inquire how you have discerned this and point out elements of the perceived damage that I feel strongly, whether actually right or not, could have only happened in a striking event at the mint. What is happening here is common sense, I want to perceive my coin as having added value, just like nearly every other post that you see x-times a day. Much uninformed thought, lacking from actual experiences or knowledge of the minting processes, has gone into this before my actual posting. So the typical responses of PSD and general refusal to take the extra time to explain how you came to the conclusion through education and even personal experiences similar to mine that helped you recognize common PSD mistaken for rare errors. THAT is an answer with true value. If they refuse to believe still, we'll, you did your part, and they will one day find that out the hard way just like you did. Saying PSD, then following up with because I said so, why ask experts if you won't listen? "Because I said so" didn't fly when I was a kid and asked why something was some way. That is the answer that the sadist gives the newbie. Hopefully, some of that made sense to someone. Would be nice to actually get that answer that explains how experience and research identified my coin as the real deal some day, until then though, showing you know your stuff in your answers could go a long way in helping newbies like myself. Heck, might even have to retract my statement about "Pros" on here if that happened! Happy hunting everyone! Sorry so long winded, it's my first post and I had a bit to say!

lol, end of conversation thanks anyways.

The onus isn't on us to explain why your perfectly ordinary looking 1964 Kennedy half dollar isn't one of the so-called (and misnamed) 1964 "SMS" coins. You're the one who is claiming that it is one, so the burden is on you to make a credible case that it is. Should you make such a case, then we might have something worthy of discussion. I assume that you would have carefully studied the available literature and photos regarding these extremely rare and controversial pieces before claiming that you have one. What characteristics does it have that distinguishes it from ordinary circulation strike pieces (over 273 million minted), and from what if any special provenance did it come that would support a position that it could be one of these purported special strikes? You have now claimed to have found three different extremely rare coins. What part of EXTREMELY RARE don't you understand?

I have a hard time with the answer to this question being what do we define as a collector? Is not someone who bought a Whitman album when the statehood quarters were released and filled such said album as they were released, now having a full statehood quarter album not a collector even if they have collected no other coins? I think they would be considered a "casual" collector. It would be difficult to pin down a number on these people as they will never submit a single coin to a TPG, nor will they ever attend a coin show, but by technical definition are still a collector. You also have amateur collectors, experienced collectors, and advanced collectors. These would comprise a number that could possibly be pinned down through submissions (but not all collectors submit and I am sure there are still many collectors with extensive collections that are raw). I would say there is a high percentage of casual collectors which outnumber greatly the amateur, experienced, and advanced combined. To me, it would be impossible to accurately assign a specific number to the posted question.