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RMW Collection of England and Great Britain

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Now that the Coronation Medals I have are done, lets go thru a tour of English and British farthing patterns and proofs.

Most of these were produced in tiny quantities, often well less than 100.

First up will be the 17th century pieces I have, a 1665 pattern Charles II (Peck variety 423) and a 1699 proof in silver.

The 1665 is being graded right now but will probably come out as a 64 or 65. the 1699 proof is a 65, cross graded from PCGS, which also graded it as a 65.

A fairly large quantity of 1665 dated pieces are out there with different varieties. Generally the longer haired versions (this is one) are more rare than the short haired varieties. To my knowledge this is the first depiction of Britannia on a coin since the days of the Roman Empire. And rumour had it that the lady depicted as Britannia was the Kings mistress.

The silver proof piece must be one of the best known, although I have seen one or two pretty much its equal. This is an example of a William III Type 2 farthing, and came from the Terner Collection, one of fabulous quality sold more than 10 years ago.

1665 farthing obverse.jpg

1665 farthing reverse.jpg

1699 Terner Proof farthing in silver, obverse.jpg

1699 Terner Proof farthing in silver,reverse.jpg

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RAW,

The 1665 is amazing!

So do you think it will be a RB then?

Is there a bit of rim damage at 12 o'clock or is that just in the pic?

My birthday is coming up. Either one would make me happy :roflmao::banana:

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Not necessarily rim damage, might be a flan issue. It can't be emphasized enough how primitive the production conditions were then.

As to RB vs BN , there is a trace of red on the coin . It would be a judgement call but really, I would let the coin speak for itself.

As to your birthday, many happy returns!

More proofs and patterns coming.

Next instalment will include a piece almost certainly handled by Sir Isaac Newton, a 1717 proof farthing.

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There is a companion short hair version available. I know where it is and might get it (another 1665 pattern farthing, that is).

The 1699 is far better than the picture shows, and has great luster and toning but does not have a complete strike. It should be kept in mind that the screw and pulley press machinery used at the time (no steam power) almost always did not exert enough pressure to give a complete strike and so some detail was often lost. Any silver coins made prior to about 1800 had the same issues,which is when steam powered machinery was finally installed and more force could be brought to bear on the strike.

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