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Dear Journal, I now have a Daniel Carr coin!

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UrbanDecay4

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I have always wanted a Daniel Carr coin and I have now finally received one. This is one of my many dream coins by Mr. Carr. I cannot tell you how much I've wanted one and a very kind man offered me one and I gladly took up that offer. I have received the MCMXXI, 2021 counter-stamped, blue toning, worn Peace Dollar. My next goal is the 1964 Peace Dollar. I hope to keep expanding my Peace Dollar collection and to one day have almost, if not all of the dates and MM's.

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So, is that a real Peace Dollar that has been counter stamped with a 2021 and the roman numerals?  Or is it considered a "fantasy piece"?

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1 hour ago, dleonard-3 said:

So, is that a real Peace Dollar that has been counter stamped with a 2021 and the roman numerals?  Or is it considered a "fantasy piece"?

It would be 1921, not 2021, because of the C - so the numbers don't match??? Odd. I'm hoping it's a fantasy piece and a genuine coin - even a dirt common one - wasn't ruined for this.

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15 hours ago, dleonard-3 said:

So, is that a real Peace Dollar that has been counter stamped with a 2021 and the roman numerals?  Or is it considered a "fantasy piece"?

 

14 hours ago, Revenant said:

It would be 1921, not 2021, because of the C - so the numbers don't match??? Odd. I'm hoping it's a fantasy piece and a genuine coin - even a dirt common one - wasn't ruined for this.

I guess, going by your posts you guys have never heard of Daniel Carr... This IS in fact a fantasy piece. Dan has his own private coin mint and mints his own coins to sell to the public. He almost always mints fantasy pieces and medallions and tokens. He's good at what he does. Here's a bit more info.

http://moonlightmint.com/

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2 hours ago, UrbanDecay4 said:

 

I guess, going by your posts you guys have never heard of Daniel Carr... This IS in fact a fantasy piece. Dan has his own private coin mint and mints his own coins to sell to the public. He almost always mints fantasy pieces and medallions and tokens. He's good at what he does. Here's a bit more info.

http://moonlightmint.com/

Most people here are aware of him, but I don't actively follow everything he makes.

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Daniel Carr is a gifted artist and engraver.  His credits run from designing statehood quarters to designing and making fantasy tokens/coins.  He is very careful to avoid breaking federal law so...  Each U.S. "Fantasy" coin that he makes is made on a genuine U.S. coin of the same type employing a surplus Denver Mint coining press.  When he started he prompted quite the discussion at the US Secret Service but...  Because the coin he strikes is struck on an original monetized coins the "fantasy" coin is not a counterfeit but a genuine coin that has been modified, i.e. Hobo Nickels.  So the Peace dollar that you hold was made on a genuine Peace dollar and can therefore be argued to be a altered U.S. coin.  He had to put the double date MCMXXI (1921) and Arabic 2021 to avoid counterfeiting the Peace MCMXXI high relief pattern.  By placing the 2021 on his coin it cannot be mistaken with the real pattern.  Each coin comes with legal language about how it is not intended nor should it be used to represent a genuine US Mint emission.  The 1964-D Peace Dollar is one of my favorites, how could he make it?  1) Officially no 1964-D Peace dollars exist, all were melted.  (That is had for me to believe but that is the official mint story and they are sticking to it.)  2) Just in case a real 1964-D Peace dollar pops up, his D mint mark is re-punched. 

Love or hate what he does, he does what he does extremely well.

 

John

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10 hours ago, JTO said:

Daniel Carr is a gifted artist and engraver.  His credits run from designing statehood quarters to designing and making fantasy tokens/coins.  He is very careful to avoid breaking federal law so...  Each U.S. "Fantasy" coin that he makes is made on a genuine U.S. coin of the same type employing a surplus Denver Mint coining press.  When he started he prompted quite the discussion at the US Secret Service but...  Because the coin he strikes is struck on an original monetized coins the "fantasy" coin is not a counterfeit but a genuine coin that has been modified, i.e. Hobo Nickels.  So the Peace dollar that you hold was made on a genuine Peace dollar and can therefore be argued to be a altered U.S. coin.  He had to put the double date MCMXXI (1921) and Arabic 2021 to avoid counterfeiting the Peace MCMXXI high relief pattern.  By placing the 2021 on his coin it cannot be mistaken with the real pattern.  Each coin comes with legal language about how it is not intended nor should it be used to represent a genuine US Mint emission.  The 1964-D Peace Dollar is one of my favorites, how could he make it?  1) Officially no 1964-D Peace dollars exist, all were melted.  (That is had for me to believe but that is the official mint story and they are sticking to it.)  2) Just in case a real 1964-D Peace dollar pops up, his D mint mark is re-punched. 

Love or hate what he does, he does what he does extremely well.

 

John

Wow... That's the best argument I've heard so far... And I 100% agree... I am all for D. Carr's coins... All it comes down to is the fact that he's an artist!

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58 minutes ago, ChrisInJesup said:

I have an ASE 2009 Restrike from DC. 

Nice! Can you post it?

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14 hours ago, JTO said:

Because the coin he strikes is struck on an original monetized coins the "fantasy" coin is not a counterfeit but a genuine coin that has been modified, i.e. Hobo Nickels.  So the Peace dollar that you hold was made on a genuine Peace dollar and can therefore be argued to be a altered U.S. coin.  

 

John

Are you saying that this peace dollar is legal tender, and can be used lawfully in a transaction, or taken to the bank to be exchanged for paper money or coin, or to be deposited - the same as if it were a presidential dollar with post mint damage?

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10 hours ago, UrbanDecay4 said:

Nice! Can you post it?

When I get home next week... I will get a picture of it and share.

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