NGC Journals

 

People are people

Deadlines Yes, I too am not too happy with the slowness of NGC. But, I've also learned that you don't tell the barber that he gives bad haircuts right before you get yours! In saying that, to the person that complains to NGC all the time about them being slow, well, you may not know it, and I'M NOT saying that they do this, but your order just may get pushed down a few more! The other point that I would like to make is, if they said it was going to be 15 days for modern, and got it to you i

Skeester

Skeester

12/16/2005

----- Keeping up with the collectors------

It's got to be tough. The coins I send in to be graded are the best I can find,sometimes it's disapointing to get a low grade but then it's nice to get back a coin that grades extremly high,I've had both,I'd hate to have the job of giving a grade to a coin that would satisfy everyone.If it takes longer than NGC states for it's grading services, it tells me coin collecting is alive & well otherwise our coins would come back fast with no market.I've been collecting for over 10 years,after se

Terry Boone

Terry Boone

12/16/2005

 

Now that's better....

AAh...a photo fan Back to the island, Proofs have almost always been a good investment. But like stock, commodities, even property, it's a long term deal. Always watch what it cost to protect what you invest in and you'll do better than most. I think proofs are a good idea. Gilligan

Island Antiques

Island Antiques

12/16/2005

 

OK, new approach...

Silver Proof Sets... I think the odds are on my side Ok, so I continue my quest to complete a set of NGC PF70 Ultra Cameo Silver State Quarters. I have decided that I will try buying up silver proof sets... whole sets.. and just the quarters in some cases and submit them myself to have them graded. I will then keep those which grade PF70, and sell the rest on ebay to make up some of the money I've spent. While I do not expect to make a profit, I think this may prove to be a little less expe

NumisGuard

NumisGuard

12/15/2005

 

re: OK, new approach...

I wouldn't count on it... You're assuming that some of the sets will come back with 1-2 coins graded PF-70. I sent in a 2000 Silver Quarter set which came back with 4 PF 67 and 1 PF 66... In the long run, it may turn out to be cheaper getting the PF-70's on ebay...

Allan C Ong

Allan C Ong

12/15/2005

 

re: OK, new approach

that's a sucker bet... If you are interested in continuing with your plan, do this first. check out the ngc pop report for each quarter. take the ration of 70s to 69s, and that will give you the minimum number you will need to submit to have decent odds of getting a 70. HOWEVER, realize that most dealers stipulate when they send stuff in that anything under a 68 or 69 is to be left ungraded. (thus, your proportion of 70s to total quarters is probably much lower). As the earlier writer sugg

hardin2413

hardin2413

12/15/2005

 

NGC ERRORs

Few I have found NGC to be just like a human, they make mistakes! But, if you let them know, thet are very happy to correct the problem. Want I want from NGC is QUALITY, and they have been providing me that. Very few corporations will call you and tell you of a problem. NGC WILL!

Clay

Clay

12/15/2005

 

re: OK, new approach

Well... I'd say thank for the kind words... but anyway Well, I am glad to see some informative responses to my previous post. I had not considered the concept that many coins are returned ungraded. Although your delivery lacked tact, you have a valid argument. As I mentioned.. Im not out to make money.. but if you think it would cost me more this way.. I may have to give it some more thought. Thank you to everyone who shared their thoughts.   DP

NumisGuard

NumisGuard

12/15/2005

Updated my Top 100 Morgan VAM Registry Set

I've posted photos of most of my Top 100 VAM regeistry set. The pics are not the typical "ooohhhhhh look at my MS-96 Proof" Check it out! updated my Top 100 VAM registry set quite a bit this month. Rather than post normal obverse and reverse photos that focus on the quality of the coin, I tried to provide a close-up microscope photo of the VAM feature and describe the variety. I've imaged almost all the coins in the registry but have been sidetracked the last week with holiday activities. T

rob_1921D

rob_1921D

12/15/2005

 

NGC vs. PCGS

Heritage Auctions says at least a 20% discount for NGC coins Was going to put some coins up for auction with Heritage today and when they found out they were NGC coins, they didn't seem interested. Said NGC coins were discounted at least 20%, but then I asked about a 1955-D NGC MS67RD penny, which lists for $5,250 on PCGS Price Guide Line and I was told I might get $185 for mine since it was NGC. What's going on with this coin collecting TPG competition. I didn't think there was that much d

Cheney

Cheney

12/14/2005

 

Photographs

Without one, what is the point. Concearning the registry sets and photographs. Without a photograph to go along with the registry set what is the point of viewers looking at your set? There is none. The point here is to show others what you have put together. Anybody can plop a certification number onto the site but that doesn't show me the coins actual grade when held up to scrutiny. Many an MS65 look like MS64's or MS66's. Show me the coin and lets see if yours lives up to the grade.
 

MAKING THAT BIG BUY!!!

How much is to much? The year was 2006 and John a collector of Morgan Dollars purchased a professionally graded 18xx-S MS63 for $50.00. John was happy with his purchase but wished he could afford a higher grade. Ken a friend of John's also was a Morgan collector. Ken decided he wanted the best so searched for a found the same year - a 18xx-S in MS67. Ken paid $4800 for his superb high quality coin of which only 9 existed at MS67. Ken was also extremely pleased and proud of his acquisition. Two

JerryB

JerryB

12/14/2005

 

Re: NGC vs. PCGS

This shouldn't surprise anyone. This is just the same old game dealers have played with a coin for years. When they are selling it, it's a perfect coin that is a screaming gem worthy of a premium. But if they're buying the same coin, it has multiple problems that they have to discount the coin for in able to sell it. The ugly part of this hobby or business or whatever you percieve it as still exists.   As an example, I took a look at the website of the auction house listed in the journal ent
 

NGC vs PCGS

Possibly correct in this case. I hate doing other peoples homework. This is in regards to the 1955 D red Lincoln Cent NGC price versus PCGS price.   <a href="http://coins.heritagegalleries.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=382&Lot_No=5346&src=pr">http://coins.heritagegalleries.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=382&Lot_No=5346&src=pr</a>   Sorry, but you will have to sign in for yourselves to see the huge difference this coin has between PCGS and NGC.
 

FITZGERALD COLLECTION

Another pedigree collection As of this date I now have sixteen different dates/mints in Morgan dollars! There are other dates available, but cost is a problem on some. I only have one Peace Dollar at this time! This is a long term collection.

Clay

Clay

12/13/2005

 

re: After 45 days...

When you say '45 days' do you mean calendar days or business days? Also bear in mind that the holidays throw everyone's schedules...   Oh, when I spoke to NGC last (about 2 weeks ago, I think), they did indeed confirm that Early Bird was running 11-12 business days late... I think I'll avoid that service for awhile...    

Allan C Ong

Allan C Ong

12/12/2005

 

re grading times

at least you can get them to grade your coins about month and half ago...I sent 200 memorial 1c's to be prescreened...now these were 200 coins i had already screened for bag marks and scuffs, good strikes etc. the grader sent them back...not enough to meet the 35% grading level...now true, I had sent them as min grade ms-66...but these were blaze reds w/out marks....ok...i got em back and rescreened to the best 100...lowered the min to ms-65...guess what....got em back today for not meeting 3

silver dollar

silver dollar

12/12/2005

 

Say Cheese Please

Please, image your coins! The beauty of this registry is that we are able to show off our coins... to strut our stuff.. brag. To have some pride in our selected hobby. We are able to do this in a secure environment, knowing that our collection is safe, where we want it to be. And even though you may keep it under lock and key, or perhaps it is just sitting under your bed, you are able to show what you have accomplished.   Many of our fellow members have images of some of thier coins and
 

It's late and the descriptions and photos are updated

If you've read through the descriptions and photos for other sets, what type of formats have you liked? Kennedy's seem like a good choice to be personally creative about a set that lacks the variety and longer history of other types. I've probably have stayed up too late and had some fun catching up on descriptions just to say more than PFUC69 - 1998-S Clad.

Rayshield

Rayshield

12/08/2005

 

Re: NGC regrading for early holders

Yes there has been some grade inflation for PCGS graded coins. I have several Morgans that were in old rattler holders that now reside in a newer NGC or PCGS holder a grade higher. When PCGS first started, they were very conservative. They had quality as the issue of utmost importance. This, along with being the first allowed them to dominate the market initially. Then with the appearance of NGC and ANACS later in the 80's, competitive forces dictated that PCGS become a little less conservative
 

Day ??? Slowly but surely

The journey continues... I am now up to 5 coins purchased. I have 2 in my possession... and awaiting 3 recently purchased on Ebay. It is tough to fork out money on stuff for myself during the holidays... so my purchasing will probably somewhat reserved until spring. Hmmm...is there a hot time of year to purchase coins? Is there a seasonal effect on values? Interesting question.. I am not really sure. We will see.   DP

NumisGuard

NumisGuard

12/08/2005